[Durham INC] Bull City Connector

Tue Jun 7 17:28:20 EDT 2011

>TTA has a remarkably high on-time rate for its own busesAs I said earlier, I'm no longer a frequent rider. But, I did catch a bus to chapel hill a couple weeks ago and the bus was 5 minutes late. It was pre-rush hour, so traffic shouldn't have been a problem.
>Generally this means that stops are too close together, to put it simply. Raleigh's R line has 20 stops on a 3.3 loop. Durham has 20 stops on a 5 mile run. Knowing how little my fellow american's like to walk, I would be doubtful that removing many stops is going to be the right answer. 
And who knows, maybe Durham is just being too ambitious in its goals. Raleigh had 150,000 passengers after 10 months: http://targetednews.com/pr_disp.php?pr_id=2510819 :)
-chloe

From: ed.harrison at mindspring.com
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Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 16:18:58 -0400
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Generally this means that stops are too close together, to put it simply. 
TTA staff were clearly instructed this morning to analyze the issues with the BCC. 
Ed
On Jun 7, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Tom Clark wrote:And how is it that ridership is down--i.e.the bus doesn't stop much--but the problem is too many stops?  
Is this the Laffer curve of transportation?   ; )
TC

 On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Ken Gasch <Ken at kengasch.com> wrote:
 Is the solution to simply reduce the number of stops from 4 and hour down to 3 an hour? If buses would then be on time, I would be happy. 
The stop closest to our home is Dillard. Now, when going west to places as far away as 9th Street, we simply have to take a car. My wife and kids love riding the bus. However, I insist on the car as I can't take waiting for the bus, late in the evening, when young kids are tired and cranky.  Ken Gasch
 REALTOR, Seagroves Realty
Contractor, TurnLight Partners, Ltd.C: 919.475.8866
 F: 866.229.4267www.KenGasch.comFollow my latest restoration at http://wheelerhouse.blogspot.com/

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Ed Harrison <ed.harrison at mindspring.com> wrote:
  I conveyed the comments from Ken G. and Kevin D. directly to TTA this morning at the monthly
 meeting on Operations.  We were discussing an item that showed TTA has a remarkably high on-time rate for its own buses, as Kevin
 appears to imply.

 The short answer from TTA Exec. Director David King is that the Bull City Connector "has too many stops."
 Also, that the 15-minute headways are ambitious. He also noted that the City Manager intends for
 the BCC to be "a premier service," and that Duke has the same interest, as a major funder.

 Ed

 On Jun 7, 2011, at 9:42 AM, Mike Woodard wrote:

  I've forwarded all these comments to DATA and TTA management.

 Mike Woodard
 City Council

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