[Durham INC] INC-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 6
Brett Fox
brettfox27 at gmail.com
Tue Sep 8 14:21:53 EDT 2015
I would say that I'm not happy to see this still happening but I am just
for the fact that it isn't ONLY happening in East Durham. We keep hearing
every 6 months or so about this happening and only when new residents
happen to mention it at a meeting or something. I moved in 2 years ago and
had our mail stopped for a period of time. And apparently about 10-15 years
ago they started doing this in East Durham and many of the residents
converted over, since they were being threatened to have their mail
stopped.
It does seem petty to be worried over, but it is also ridiculous and as
stated previously, creates a problem when you have a street that is all on
different methods of delivery, especially a street that has legal on-street
parking. And for some of our residents that are located near Maureen Joy
School, who have parents park in front of their house all the time. How can
you control who parks in front of your house and blocks your mailbox? And
yet, your mail is withheld (and sometimes "lost). Mail carriers do not have
the authority to force you to change or to withhold your mail and should
have consequences for not doing their job within the appropriate
boundaries.
I want to thank Sen. Woodard for his responsiveness is getting this dealt
with, but I do feel like it is more of a systemic issue than just a couple
"rogue" mail carriers like has been suggested. I really wish there would be
a way for the whole neighborhood to get a complete "reset" so we can go
back to how it was before these "rogue" mail carriers started intimidating
people and putting their little fliers in our mailboxes.
Brett Fox
106 N Driver St
On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 1:00 PM Myers Sugg <andrew.sugg at duke.edu> wrote:
> I'm convinced that there must be some type of incentive program for
> carriers. It keeps coming up year after year despite the effort of many
> and acknowledgement by upper management within USPS. The targets are new
> residents who have no idea what the rules are. They act quickly to erect a
> rural box because they don't want their mail returned as the letter
> threatens.
>
> And for all of the naysayers who think this is silly to not cooperate:
> I'm more than willing to be a part of a comprehensive delivery change when
> all participate simultaneously. Tell me what the logic is if my walking
> letter carrier walks from my next door neighbor's front porch, and then to
> the street for my newly erected box, only to return to the porch of my
> neighbor on the other side? Also, if a curb mailbox is blocked by a car
> because of legal on street parking, I won't get delivery that day. Again
> when there is more comprehensive and thoughtful methods used to truly
> improve delivery efficiencies, let's talk. Until then, USPS needs to
> follow the rules they are bound to instead of continuing to hit
> unsuspecting new residents with a threat of held or returned mail.
>
> Myers Sugg
>
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> 1. FW: FYI these are still being used (Tom Miller)
> 2. Re: FW: FYI these are still being used (John Martin)
> 3. Re: FW: FYI these are still being used (Philip Azar)
> 4. Re: FW: FYI these are still being used (Mike Woodard)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 14:43:40 -0400
> From: "Tom Miller" <tom-miller1 at nc.rr.com>
> To: <inc-list at lists.deltaforce.net>
> Subject: [Durham INC] FW: FYI these are still being used
> Message-ID: <006001d0e99d$1dbce3c0$5936ab40$@nc.rr.com>
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> Jeez. It never stops!
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> From: Leslie Page [mailto:leslie at westdurhamrealty.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 07, 2015 11:46 AM
> To: Tom Miller; Steve Schewel; mike at mikewoodard.com;
> don.moffitt at durhamnc.gov
> Subject: FYI these are still being used
> Importance: Low
>
>
>
> Got this on a property I manage in Duke Forest.
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> Leslie S. Page
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> REALTOR, Broker, Owner
>
> West Durham Realty LLC
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> 2106 Sprunt Ave., Durham, NC 27705
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> 919-286-9400 office
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> 919-602-1963 cell
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> 919-246-9375 fax
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> Leslie at WestDurhamRealty.com
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> www.WestDurhamRealty.com
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> From: John Martin <bulldurhamnc at yahoo.com>
> To: Tom Miller <tom-miller1 at nc.rr.com>,
> "inc-list at lists.deltaforce.net" <inc-list at lists.deltaforce.net>
> Subject: Re: [Durham INC] FW: FYI these are still being used
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> On Friday, Mike Woodard contacted the postal higher-ups in Greensboro
> about similar incidents in East Durham. ?The person he spoke to promised to
> get on it. ?I guess Mike can add this to the list.
> For other people on the INC list, if you hear of this happening in your
> neighborhood, inform people that it is a violation of postal regulations,
> and they should not simply accept it.
> John
> From: Tom Miller <tom-miller1 at nc.rr.com>
> To: inc-list at lists.deltaforce.net
> Sent: Monday, September 7, 2015 2:43 PM
> Subject: [Durham INC] FW: FYI these are still being used
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> stops! ?T ?From: Leslie Page [mailto:leslie at westdurhamrealty.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 07, 2015 11:46 AM
> To: Tom Miller; Steve Schewel; mike at mikewoodard.com;
> don.moffitt at durhamnc.gov
> Subject: FYI these are still being used
> Importance: Low ?Got this on a property I manage in Duke Forest. ? ?Leslie
> S. PageREALTOR, Broker, OwnerWest Durham Realty LLC2106 Sprunt Ave.,
> Durham, NC 27705919-286-9400 office919-602-1963 cell919-246-9375
> faxLeslie at WestDurhamRealty.comwww.WestDurhamRealty.com
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> From: Philip Azar <pazar at nc.rr.com>
> To: Tom Miller <tom-miller1 at nc.rr.com>
> Cc: "<inc-list at lists.deltaforce.net>" <inc-list at lists.deltaforce.net>
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> Isn't this a federal agency matter? Why aren't we using federal chains of
> command? We have supportive congressional representatives and an Attorney
> General not pre-disposed to having North Carolinians mistreated.
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> > On Sep 7, 2015, at 2:43 PM, Tom Miller <tom-miller1 at nc.rr.com> wrote:
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> > Jeez. It never stops!
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> > T
> >
> > From: Leslie Page [mailto:leslie at westdurhamrealty.com]
> > Sent: Monday, September 07, 2015 11:46 AM
> > To: Tom Miller; Steve Schewel; mike at mikewoodard.com;
> don.moffitt at durhamnc.gov
> > Subject: FYI these are still being used
> > Importance: Low
> >
> > Got this on a property I manage in Duke Forest.
> >
> >
> > Leslie S. Page
> > REALTOR, Broker, Owner
> > West Durham Realty LLC
> > 2106 Sprunt Ave., Durham, NC 27705
> > 919-286-9400 office
> > 919-602-1963 cell
> > 919-246-9375 fax
> > Leslie at WestDurhamRealty.com
> > www.WestDurhamRealty.com
> > <PO Notice.pdf>
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> Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2015 09:01:14 -0400
> From: Mike Woodard <mike at mikewoodard.com>
> To: Philip Azar <pazar at nc.rr.com>, Tom Miller <tom-miller1 at nc.rr.com>
> Cc: "<inc-list at lists.deltaforce.net>" <inc-list at lists.deltaforce.net>
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> Congressman Price's office has been involved. The problem is rogue
> individual carriers not following rules. We have to stay on top of this.
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> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~?
> Mike Woodard
> Phone: 919.599.5143mikewoodard. com
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> From: Philip Azar <pazar at nc.rr.com>
> Date: 09/07/2015 5:57 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: Tom Miller <tom-miller1 at nc.rr.com>
> Cc: "<inc-list at lists.deltaforce.net>" <inc-list at lists.deltaforce.net>
> Subject: Re: [Durham INC] FW: FYI these are still being used
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> Isn't this a federal agency matter? Why aren't we using federal chains of
> command? ?We have supportive congressional representatives and an Attorney
> General not pre-disposed to having North Carolinians mistreated.
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> Sent: Monday, September 07, 2015 11:46 AM
> To: Tom Miller; Steve Schewel; mike at mikewoodard.com;
> don.moffitt at durhamnc.gov
> Subject: FYI these are still being used
> Importance: Low?Got this on a property I manage in Duke Forest.??Leslie S.
> PageREALTOR, Broker, OwnerWest Durham Realty LLC2106 Sprunt Ave., Durham,
> NC 27705919-286-9400 office919-602-1963 cell919-246-9375
> faxLeslie at WestDurhamRealty.comwww.WestDurhamRealty.com<PO
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