[Esip-preserve] Data Committee

[Nancy Hoebelheinrich]

Me too!
Namcy

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[mailto:esip-preserve-bounces at lists.esipfed.org] On Behalf Of Ruth Duerr
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:51 AM
To: Mark A. Parsons
Cc: esip-preserve at lists.esipfed.org
Subject: Re: [Esip-preserve] Data Committee

Agreed.

On Jul 22, 2011, at 9:09 AM, Mark A. Parsons wrote:

> Yes, this is better. For C I would use referencing instead of citing.
Referencing is broader and can include linked data concepts.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -m.  
> On 22 Jul 2011, at 8:19 AM, Ramapriyan, Hampapuram K. (GSFC-4230) wrote:
> 
>> Reading "a" in the list again, I find hard to parse it. Is it supposed to
mean:
>> 
>> 
>> (To develop, evolve, foster, or adopt practices and standards) that
>> ensure (continued and reliable information content of ESS data, quality
of ESS data, access
>> to ESS data, and usability of Earth system science data) (for as long as
they
>> are deemed to be of value).
>> 
>> The problem is that it is a long sentence with "access to" appearing in
the middle of items that need to go with "of".  We could drop the "access
to" here and cover it in "c" thereby removing the redundancy as well as the
parsing issue. Thus,
>> 
>> a) To develop, evolve, foster, or adopt best practices and standards that
>> ensure continued and reliable information content, quality, 
>> and usability of Earth system science data for as long as they
>> are deemed to be of value.
>> 
>> b) To facilitate the long-term preservation and stewardship of Earth
>> system science data.
>> 
>> c) To facilitate accessing, referencing and citing Earth system science
data.
>> 
>> Alternatively
>> 
>> c) To facilitate access to and citation of Earth system science data. [I
think referencing and citing are the same - so avoid redundancy]
>> 
>> d) To facilitate the development of data science as a professional
>> discipline that adds value and increases the use of Earth system
>> science data.
>> 
>> ************************************************
>> H. K. "Rama" Ramapriyan
>> Assistant Project Manager, ESDIS Project, Code 423
>> NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
>> Phone: (301) 614-5356; FAX: (301)-614-5267; Cell: (240)678-0398
>> ************************************************
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
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[mailto:esip-preserve-bounces at lists.esipfed.org] On Behalf Of Hua, Hook
(388C)
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:54 AM
>> To: esip-preserve at lists.esipfed.org
>> Subject: Re: [Esip-preserve] Data Committee
>> 
>> The phrase, "best practices", is commonly use.
>> 
>> So for (a), should we say, "To develop, evolve, foster, or adopt
practices..." or ""To develop, evolve, foster, or adopt best practices..." ?
>> 
>> Everyone has practices, but it may be the cluster's role to identify
which are the best practices.
>> 
>> --Hook
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/20/11 10:44 AM, "Tilmes, Curt (GSFC-6145)" <Curt.Tilmes at nasa.gov>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>>> a) To develop, evolve, foster, or adopt practices and standards that
>>>> ensure continued and reliable information content, quality, access
>>>> to, and usability of Earth system science data for as long as they
>>>> are deemed to be of value.
>>>> 
>>>> b. To facilitate the long-term preservation and stewardship of Earth
>>>> system science data.
>>>> 
>>>> c. To facilitate accessing and referencing Earth system science data.
>>>> 
>>>> d) To facilitate the development of data science as a professional
>>>> discipline that adds value and increases the use of Earth system
>>>> science data.
>>> 
>>> I do like this, but...
>>> 
>>> Is the "... practices and standards that ensure ... access to ... data
>>> ..." in a) redundant with the "...facilitate accessing ... data" in
>>> b)?
>>> 
>>> The way we 'facilitate' something is usually to
>>> develop/evolve/foster/adopt practices and standards that do it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We could remove "accessing" from c. and put "citation" back in (As
>>> Kathy pointed out, that term has special meaning, and it would be nice
>>> to include it -- I also prefer 'citation' to 'citability'
>>> aestheticly..)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> c. To facilitate reference and citation of Earth system science data.
>>> 
>>> Curt
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