[Esip-preserve] Error discovered in Antarctic sea-ice record : Nature News & Comment

Ruth Duerr via Esip-preserve esip-preserve at lists.esipfed.org
Wed Jul 23 22:57:22 EDT 2014


Hear, hear !!!  Otherwise known as 

+1

On Jul 23, 2014, at 6:21 PM, Bruce Barkstrom via Esip-preserve <esip-preserve at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:

> We're probably hit by public expectations that the process of producing high-quality,
> homogeneous data can be done instantaneously.  After all, if we can get weather
> reports with data less than 6 hours old, how come it takes a couple of decades
> to get corrections to the old errors?
> 
> Another point is that the scientific review process is not well equipped to handle
> long, detailed technical analysis of algorithms that come with as many as hundreds
> of pages of derivations and assorted streams of technical data such as calibration
> coefficients, spectral responses, and perturbations to the operational procedures.
> 
> I guess we may need to train some folks in physics and math so that they can 
> understand the full picture, not just the semantic web or database issues.  There
> may even be some necessity to teach IT folks FORTRAN (even 1977 FORTRAN)
> and such numerical analysis details as roundoff and truncation errors that were 
> part of routine physical science training forty years ago.
> 
> Or, to put it a bit more broadly, there's a need for a much deeper education into
> more than the mathematical graphs represented in provenance, there's a need
> to understand the logic that gets designed into data production scenarios - and
> that's not sound bite stuff.
> 
> Bruce B.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Parsons, Mark via Esip-preserve <esip-preserve at lists.esipfed.org> wrote:
> provenance, baby!
> http://www.nature.com/news/error-discovered-in-antarctic-sea-ice-record-1.15605 
> 
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