[esip-semantictech] [ESIPFed/sweet] Earth Science Idol (#33)

[John Kunze]

The evils of crowdsourcing can largely be mitigated by reputation-based
voting. I never describe YAMZ without that mitigation because the downside
of uncontrolled crowdsourcing is so well-known.

On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 11:50 AM, HUHNS, MICHAEL <HUHNS at mailbox.sc.edu>
wrote:

> Thanks, Beth, this all seems reasonable to me now.
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> [Slightly off-topic] I heard the following about limitations of
> crowdsourcing and Big Data: “50 billion flies eating manure does not imply
> it is healthy for you to eat it.” LOL.
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> Cheers,
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> Mike
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> *From:* bethhuffer [mailto:notifications at github.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 04, 2017 8:16 AM
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> *Cc:* HUHNS, MICHAEL <HUHNS at mailbox.sc.edu>; Comment <
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> *Subject:* Re: [ESIPFed/sweet] Earth Science Idol (#33)
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> Well, if the two concepts really are different, then we shouldn't try to
> reconcile them. We should instead consider renaming the SWEET concept
> "sedimentary soil" or something, to make it clear that it is not intended
> to refer to all soil, but only that which is also sediment. Alternatively
> this exercise will help us recognize that soil is misclassified in SWEET,
> and should be somewhere else in the ontology. The ontologists among us will
> then go to work figuring out where.
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> I apologize for using the term "crowd-sourcing". The intent is to have
> subject matter experts help us in defining terms correctly, or in helping
> us realize that we need a different term. We'll probably never actually
> have a whole crowd of them, and if we do, we will give much less weight to
> the opinions of people who think dolphins are fish than we do the opinions
> of marine biologists when it comes to defining "dolphin". :-) The YAMZ tool
> is a convenient platform for presenting terms to people who may not want to
> deal with a full-fledged ontology. Definitions can include phrases like
> "that has settled to the bottom of a liquid" to indicate that the concept
> in question is a subclass of sediment. Ontologists are, in fact, involved
> in this effort, and they can help ensure that, once we've agreed on what a
> term means, it is properly situated in the ontology. This is a pilot to try
> to sort out the way forward in making SWEET a valuable COMMUNITY resource,
> and in ensuring that it is aligned with ENVO. If it turns out that the
> approach we outlined while drinking beers at a pub in Bloomington is
> inadequate, we can always refine it. :-)
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