INC NEWS - [pac2] RE: agenda and proposed resolutions for April25 meeting

[Reyn Bowman]

Wasn't quibbling with "what" we do differently just that we start experimenting.   The status quo isn't working.   I'd love to see the best practices now for pan handling.  But I agree none of these are silver bullets...

 

Reyn Bowman

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From: Newman Aguiar [mailto:newman at nc.rr.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 11:20 AM
To: Reyn Bowman; inc-list at durhaminc.org
Subject: RE: INC NEWS - [pac2] RE: agenda and proposed resolutions for April25 meeting

 

Problem is that the proposed change will not have any positive effect on curb appeal.  We know this from similar actions taken by other cities.

 

The primary issue is one of supply and demand.  If we don't give money to panhandlers or street vendors, we can end the practice (no laws or ordinance is required).  This has been accomplished in other cities that have been successful in addressing the problem by implementing educational programs.  The solution is similar to what Sgt. Gunter shared with us about door-to-door solicitations.  As long as we supply the opportunity, the practice will continue.  It's really that simple.  Yet many cities have gone down this path of enacting similar ordinances and have failed, at significant cost to the taxpayers.

 

Newman

 

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From: inc-list-bounces at rtpnet.org [mailto:inc-list-bounces at rtpnet.org] On Behalf Of Reyn Bowman
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 10:59 AM
To: inc-list at durhaminc.org
Subject: Re: INC NEWS - [pac2] RE: agenda and proposed resolutions for April25 meeting

 

Starting somewhere has merit as clearly do the other postings.   Fact is, scientific public opinion polls of Durham residents show appearance to be a major issue.  They also show that people believe the community wide curb appeal negatively impacts property values and fosters resistance to tax increases to cover those more important issues.

 

My take is....what were are doing definitely isn't working for a variety of reasons.   And we need to give some new initiatives a try....Hats off to INC for giving it consideration.

 

Reyn Bowman

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From: inc-list-bounces at rtpnet.org [mailto:inc-list-bounces at rtpnet.org] On Behalf Of Anne Guyton
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 10:50 AM
To: bragin at nc.rr.com; TheOcean1 at aol.com
Cc: pac2 at yahoogroups.com; inc-list at durhaminc.org
Subject: Re: INC NEWS - [pac2] RE: agenda and proposed resolutions for April25 meeting

 

Absolutely - other issues would really benefit from this energy and benefit Durham more.

Anne Guyton

bragin at nc.rr.com wrote:

i still have to poll the DPNA board on this, so these are my opinions, 
not our official position.

while the language of the current proposal is much less odious than the 
previous proposal, this to me is a much lower priority issue than 
getting the current housing/zoning codes, violations of which are 
reported and repeatedly ignored, enforced in a timely manner. i'd much 
rather see more pressure put on landlords and property managers who 
neglect their properties to start conforming with our existing codes, 
or going after illegal dumpers, than have the police spending their 
time busting a relative handful of people who are soliciting spare 
change on the public right-of-way.

the bang for the buck return on this proposal is going to be relatively 
small.

barry ragin

 

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