INC NEWS - perhaps this issue is a different one...

[Melissa Rooney]

Thanks, Bill. Didn't mean to sound nasty or anything.
All gov't officials (BOCC, CC and post-Frank-Duke
planning department) have been very receptive to my
neighbors' and my concerns, which have resulted (in
part) to ordinance amendments. And the JCCPC, planning
department and PC have worked very hard and have been
very thorough in their review of the conservation
subdivision amendments on which the PC will vote at
their next meeting.

Don't want to sound like I'm lynching our elected
officials...I've just had my fair share of complaining
from residents who feel that they should be able to
count on the gov't following the PC's lead, rather
than having to trek downtown to make their concerns
heard. Albeit, southern Durham doesn't have the best
reputation for voicing their concerns (but we're
trying to change that). 

Melissa

--- TheOcean1 at aol.com wrote:

>  
>  
> Hold on a second.
>  
> Our elected officials shouldn't be lynched quite
> yet!
>  
> Melissa and Randy are talking like they've already
> voted against the  
> citizens.
>  
> Randy said "But the article went on to say that City
> Council would probably  
> approve it..."
> That's not exactly accurate, I went down to the
> recycle bin,  and here's 
> exactly what Ray Gronberg wrote, 
>  
> "...project critics like Leyburn Place resident Ann
> Goodwin and Omah Street  
> resident Laura Suski SUSPECT the council will
> approve it"
>  
> Perhaps Laura and Ann are wrong. 
>  
> I just think we shouldn't grab our pitch forks and
> be too angry at our City  
> Council, based on what these two citizens suspect
> will happen.
>  
> Bill Anderson
>  
> In a message dated 5/19/2008 1:58:54 P.M. Eastern
> Daylight Time,  
> mmr121570 at yahoo.com writes:
> 
> Well  said, Randy. Over the years, there have been
> numerous such cases down here  in Rural/Suburban
> South
> Durham, where the PC overwhelmingly voted against 
> and
> the governing bodies approved anyway...to the point
> that members of  my neighborhood listserv quite
> literally couldn't believe the facts that  I
> presented....they said, 'what do we have a Planning
> commission for, if  we citizens then have to truck
> up
> to City Hall in order to hope to be  heard...and
> even
> then it's just a hope.'
> 
> It's often argued that the  gov't can't legally vote
> against a development for one reason or  another.
> That's when I say, 'change the local ordinances to
> reflect real  citizens' concerns.'
> 
> Melissa
> 
> --- RW Pickle  <randy at 27beverly.com> wrote:
> 
> > Reading in todays Herald Sun, I  saw where City
> > Council will be voting
> > tonight on a new  development in the Hillandale
> Road
> > area. In it, the
> > article  stated that the Planning Commission
> (that's
> > the citizen folks  we
> > keep talking about in these development equasions
> in
> >  wanting a NA or
> > something else to get our voices heard) had  voted
> > 10-1 in favor of
> > REJECTING the development proposal. But  the
> article
> > went on to say that
> > City Council would probably  approve it...
> > 
> > Well, it seems to me that our elected  officials
> > really are the ones who
> > are at fault here if they do  not listen to those
> in
> > our community who are
> > charged with  dealing with development issues as
> the
> > Planning Commission
> > is.  And as it is with every decision made it
> seems,
> > regardless of what  is
> > suggested, Council always has the last say and can
> > vote it  either way
> > regardless of the recommendations of the citizens
> >  who work tirelessly to
> > make those recommendations. I can't see how 
> having a
> > NA (or what ever they
> > would be called) could trump  what ends up being
> the
> > ultimate decision that
> > Council, and  Council only, has the power to make.
> If
> > they don't want to
> >  listen to the Planning Commission, to whom do you
> > think they'll  listen?
> > It's not like a 10-1 vote by them was a decision
> > that  one could read any
> > other way but to reject the plan. It's not like  a
> > 6-5 vote where maybe
> > some further study would be  necessary.
> > 
> > It spits in the face of every citizen, when, 
> after
> > spending countless
> > hours volunteering our time (this is  the
> collective
> > time spent by all
> > citizens that sit on  committees, commissions, and
> > authorities in our
> > community),  making recommendations to do this or
> > that, to have all of that
> >  time wasted when decisions are made that
> contradict
> > those  citizens
> > efforts. Maybe if we'd all quit doing all of this
> >  volunteering for a
> > awhile, we could send a message that someone 
> needs
> > to hear us! Otherwise
> > it just seems as if we're all  wasting our time on
> > deaf ears...
> > 
> > RWP
> > 27  Beverly
> > 
> > 
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