INC NEWS - What is implied in saying that the INC express supportfor the Friends of West Point Park

Thu Sep 25 13:47:01 EDT 2008

Can the INC also support a measure without stating that the support is
directed to back a group?

For example: The INC supports the city working to save..... 

And, leave out the part about Friends of Eno?  We just support preservation.

And, wouldn't that be a more powerful backing?

Ken Gasch

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Subject: INC NEWS - What is implied in saying that the INC express
supportfor the Friends of West Point Park

I also have concern about this last statement in the resolution

I believe it might be much more judicious and accurate in having it modified

to state    "The INC express support for the Friends of West Point Park in 
resolving this issue"  rather than make it sound like an all out blanket 
statement of support for everything they do and/or stand for by a separate 
neighborhood organization.

Mike Shiflett

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Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [NPNA] INC NEWS - IMPORTANT TO NORTHGATE PARK regarding nearby 
Eno Park development

> Mike I am confused by the wording of the last phrase of the resolution:
>  What is implied in saying that " the INC express support for the
> Friends of West Point Park?"  Does that mean that we support them in
> general, or that we support what they want to have happen at West
> Point, which is that the state buy the Ray property and the city gives
> them West Point?
> On Thursday, September 25, 2008, at 11:57 AM, Mike - Hotmail wrote:
>
>>
>> Northgage Park neighbors;
>>
>> Below are the entire draft minutes from last night's INC meeting. At
>> the very bottom is a resolution concerning the area around West Point
>> on the Eno.
>> This WILL be voted on at the INC Oct meeting, so Northgate Park will
>> need to decide which way they would like our vote to be cast at our
>> Oct DPNA meeting
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mike Shiflett
>> NPNA INC Rep
>>
>> In a message dated 9/24/2008 8:11:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> deanna at crc32.com writes:
>> InterNeighborhood Council of Durham
>> August 26, 2008, 7pm
>> Herald-Sun Building (2828 Pickett Rd)
>>
>> Deanna Crossman Walltown
>> David Harris Old Farm
>> Cathy Abernathy Hope Valley
>> Janet Hitti Parkwood
>> Rev Melvin Whitley YE Smith
>> Cheryl Shiflett Northgate Park
>> Mike Shiflett Northgate Park
>> Carolyn Kreuger Trinity Park / Kids Voting
>> Bob Chapman Lanier Evans
>> Tom Bonfield Durham City Manager
>> Bill Anderson Duke Park
>> MIke Woodard Watts-Hillandale
>> Josie McNeil Friends of West Point Park
>> Dave Owen Lockhaven Hills
>> Janet Warner Friends of West Point Park
>> Shel Anderson Schoolhouse of Wonder
>> Robin Jacobs Eno River Association
>> Rosemarie Kitchin Falconbridge
>> N Gallman Old West Durham
>> Rhonda Parker DPR
>> Beth Timson DPR
>> Myers Sugg Tuscaloosa Lakewood
>> Tom Miller Watts-Hospital Hillandale
>> Ken Gasch Colonial Village
>> DeDreana Freeman Golden Belt
>> Antoine Freeman Golden Belt
>>
>> Welcome and Introductions 7:10pm
>>
>> Announcements
>>
>> Election Nominations
>> President: Craigie Sanders
>> President-Elect: Colin Crossman
>> Treasurer: Myers Sugg
>> Secretary: Leslie Page
>> At Large: Rosemarie Kitchin, Amanda Arrington, Bill Anderson
>> Past President: Ken Gasch
>>
>> Motion to close nominations - Mike Shiflett. Motion Carried.
>>
>> Updates
>>
>> Motion to approve August minutes - Mike Shiflett. Motion Carried.
>>
>> Motion to add Prepared Meals Tax presentation to agenda - Shiflett.
>> Motion Carried.
>>
>> Treasurer's report - Needs assistance sending out dues letters.
>> Recommended he talk to DCVB and Planning for proper neighborhood
>> listing.
>>
>> Congratulations to Amanda Arrington, et al for the passage of the
>> Tethering Ban!
>>
>> Neighborhood Hero Awards - heroes will be presented at the next Exec
>> Board Mtg. Time, date, and location to be determined. Thanks to all
>> the neighborhoods who submitted nominations!
>>
>> Presentations
>>
>> Kids Voting - Carolyn Kreuger
>> Talked about what characteristics make a good citizen. Instilling
>> those ideals comes long before a person reaches 18 years old, and is
>> formed by actions of adults around them.
>>
>> A great way to get kids excited about voting is to have them vote,
>> too! The results of the kids voting election are even published in
>> the paper the next days. Their goal is to have a Kids Voting booth at
>> every precinct. They can always use more volunteers to help set up or
>> man a booth in 2 hour shifts. Their goal this year is to have a booth
>> at every precinct. Even if your precinct doesn't have a booth this
>> year, you can take your children to any precinct to vote.
>>
>> If you're interested in volunteering, there is a 45min training
>> session and there are several between now and election day. If more
>> information, contact Carolyn at info at kidsvotingdurham.org or
>> 919-560-7321.
>>
>> Prepared Meals Tax - Rev Melvin Whitley
>> This is not a tax on food from the grocery store. It is a 1% tax
>> levied on prepared meals, the profits go toward making Durham a
>> special place.
>>
>> We need more recreation centers. The Raleigh convention center was
>> paid for with their meals tax (have you eaten in Raleigh? You helped
>> pay for it). Like to call it A Taste For Durham's Future.
>>
>> The tax will relieve some of the pressure on the general fund,
>> delaying the need for another property tax increase.
>>
>> Forum on fate of West Point Park
>>
>> To educate us on the process / options regarding 60 acres south of
>> West Point Park known as the Black Meadow Ridge Tract.
>> Representatives of Friends of West Point Park (FOWPP) and Eno River
>> Association here to discuss, as well as Parks and Rec, Mike Woodard,
>> and Tom Bonfield.
>>
>> There are two issues at hand: how to protect Black Meadow Ridge (BMR),
>> and who will own West Point Park. Eno River Assoc wants to preserve
>> BMR, but takes no position on who owns West Point Park, as they feel
>> both the city and state do a good job with their parks. FOWPP are
>> working to facilitate the purchase of the land by the State Parks
>> system, as there is currently no funds in the city budget for such a
>> purchase. The catch is that they require the city transfer ownership
>> of WPP to the State to tie it all in to the Eno River State Park
>> system.
>>
>> The State Parks rep and owner have sat down to discuss recent
>> appraisals and it is said that they have a tentative mutual agreement
>> as to the value of the land and that if possible, the owner would like
>> to see the land bought for preservation.
>>
>> Questions:
>>
>> Claim there isn't any money in the State budget either? Reps say the
>> money will come from the Parks and Rec Trust Fund, and that there are
>> funds available this fiscal year ('08-'09), affirmed by Paul Leubke
>> and State Parks rep. In reality, this is a competitive application
>> process, so the funds aren't guaranteed.
>>
>> Is the State's position that it won't buy BMR without the transfer of
>> WPP? Yes, they don't want to have a satellite plot of 60 acres. WPP
>> would join BMR to the Eno River State Park.
>>
>> There are other avenues to pursue the money for purchase - another
>> state agency (such as the Department of Cultural Resources) could
>> apply for the funds to purchase the land, then lease it to the city
>> for a nominal fee. Has anyone talked to the Secretary of Cultural
>> Resources? No. The talks with the state park have been ongoing for 1
>> year. The city has not really commented on their desire or
>> willingness to take on management of more land, nor their willingness
>> to transfer it to the state park system.
>>
>> Is the city willing to work with state agencies to pursue alternative
>> sources of funding, in order to maintain control of WPP? Tom Bonfield
>> says yes.
>>
>> It's important to point out the growing concerns and regulations
>> around nitrogen contamination of streams, run-off, etc... Eno River
>> will be used to fill Teer Quarry.
>>
>> Politics change and a previous governor of NC proposed selling a lot
>> of state park land. The land is more secure in the hands of the city
>> (where we as citizens have more influence) than with the state.
>>
>> The city must rezone the property. Regardless of the fate of WPP,
>> which will likely take longer, the property must be rezoned, as it
>> currently has no zoning, and this is scheduled to happen on December
>> 9th. The current proposed rezoning is RS-10, which allows 4 units per
>> acre. The other possibility is RS-20 which would allow 2 units per
>> acre. The third option is that the owner volunteers to submit a
>> development plan, in which there are committed elements, but that has
>> not happened. Once it's rezoned, the developer could build at any
>> time.
>>
>> Neighbors are asked to discuss this issue, and the proposed resolution
>> (below) with their neighborhood associations. The resolution will be
>> discussed, and there is the possibility that more suggestions for
>> possible purchase solutions be added to the resolution at the next
>> meeting. Please give your INC representative the authority to vote on
>> the resolution with minor modifications, as time is of the essence.
>>
>> More information on the funds is available through the Department of
>> Environmental and Natural Resources (the Natural Heritage Trust Fund).
>>
>> Motion to Adjourn 8:55pm.
>>
>> A Resolution Supporting the Friends of West Point Park
>>
>> WHEREAS, the West Point on the Eno Park provides a unique and positive
>> experience to the people of Durham, and
>>
>> WHEREAS a 60-acre tract neighboring the park known as the Black Meadow
>> Ridge overlooks the park and may be the subject of development, and
>>
>> WHEREAS, the West Point on the Eno Park will be significantly harmed
>> unless the Black Meadow Ridge is protected from development, and
>>
>> WHEREAS the state of North Carolina has expressed interest in
>> acquiring the West Point Park and the Black Meadow Ridge tract for
>> incorporation into the Eno River State Park,
>>
>> IT IS THEREFORE RESOLVED that the Interneighborhood Council urge the
>> City of Durham take all necessary steps to purchase, or cause to be
>> purchased, the Black Meadow Ridge Tract; that, if the State Park
>> System's offer is the only means with which to preserve the Tract,
>> such offer be seriously considered, such that preservation of the
>> tract is achieved while maintaining flexibility within the park for
>> Durham residents; and that the Interneighborhood Council express
>> support for the Friends of West Point Park.
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