[Durham INC] Tom Bonfield~ [pac2] Property Managers - how to findout about them?

Wed Sep 16 06:27:28 EDT 2009

I will support this idea.

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Rev. Melvin Whitley

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Subject: [Durham INC] Tom Bonfield~ [pac2] Property Managers - how to
findout about them?

Hold on, 3 years is a long time in Durham. Maybe our new city manager likes
the idea, perhaps Pensacola even had a similar program. Or maybe he won't
like the idea, but let's give him a chance to tell us.

Mr. Bonfield,

What are your thoughts regarding property managers simply registering with
the city a list of the properties they manage?

As pointed out below, community activists have been interested in this for
years, because of an occasional need to contact the responsible party. But I
would think city staff has a much more regular need for the same
information, surprised the request hasn't been coming from them, instead of
the community.

Bill Anderson
PAC2

In a message dated 9/15/2009 1:26:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
kjj1 at duke.edu writes:

Elizabeth--
Good luck pushing this issue. It is nearly impossible to find out who
manages properties. It strikes me as odd in this age of databases & ease of
making information widely available, that something as simple as requiring
property managers to submit an excel spreadsheet listing all the properties
they manage to a central clearinghouse where it could be made available to
the public is a big deal. But it seems to be. Property managers resist it
and the city seems to go along with them.

It was last pushed hard 3-4 years ago. There is always a great deal of
interest from neighborhood associations and citizens and a fair amount of
resistance from property managers and city officials.

Kelly Jarrett

Steve Graff wrote: 

Hi Elizabeth,

This is one of the biggest struggles, finding out who to contact about
problems with a property in the neighborhood. As you have discovered, the
Durham GIS system only lists the name and address for the property owner (no
phone number), but no information for the property management company. Often
times, the owner is in another state entirely, and the address listed is a
P.O. box. 

Sometimes with the name and address you can use a search engine such as
Google to try to find additional information for the owners. Other times,
this information is not available.

As an example, there is a four-plex apartment building just down the street
from us. About a year ago it was purchased and renovated by the new owners,
including replacing all of the windows. I was glad to see this happen as
this apartment building was the scene of a shooting a few years ago.

Everythi ng seemed to be going well up until recently. Then tenants started
to play loud music at all time of day and night. Then they started throwing
their trash into the ravine next to the building. Then we started to hear
loud arguments. Then we started to hear glass bottles being broken on the
ground. Then I started to see drug deals occurring there. Then one of the
residents started speeding up and and down the street at 60+ mph endangering
the residents who walk up and down this street (where there are no
sidewalks).

There was a big thread on various PAC mailing lists about the need for a
property registry sometime earlier this year. The need is clear. There needs
to be some way to contact property managers to notify them to concerns about
their property, so that they can take appropriate action before bad renters
trash their property and continue to continue to trash the neighborhood.

Steve Graff
President
Old North Durham Neighborhood Association
http://www.oldnorth <http://www.oldnorthdurham.com/> durham.com/

slgraff at gmail. <mailto:slgraff at gmail.com> com

On Sep 15, 2009, at 10:37 AM, elizabeth_gill99 wrote:

Dear All,

Walltown is reactivating Neighborhood Watch, we are starting with a few
blocks with the hope of growing. Question: we know how to find out who owns
properties on the City web site, but is there a easy way to find out who
manages them? I don't mind contacting delinquent owners but would love to
contact the property managers too.

Thanks!

Elizabeth K. Gill

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