[Durham INC] Fw: [owdna] Re: Destiny's 2 shootings in its short life to date?

[M. W. Shiflett - Hotmail]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Beverly Tucker 
To: Beverly Tucker ; Kelly Jarrett ; Ian Kleinfeld ; owdna at yahoogroups.com ; whhna-list-bounces at rtpnet.org 
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 5:12 PM
Subject: [owdna] Re: Destiny's 2 shootings in its short life to date?




Dear neighbors - 

In the past few weeks, I attended my first PAC2 meeting that included a presentation by ABC staff followed by Q&A about the rules, procedures and trends for pulling a license from an establishment.  I then attended my first Durham Businesses Against Crime (BDAC) meeting at which folks (including the police) spoke of their frustration with ABC's rules being so lame.  

Below is an editorial sent to the Herald Sun today about this issue - which is a step in the right direction - but would surely benefit from neighbors speaking up loudly and often about their concern and intent to prevent a third incident stemming from the vicinity of Destiny's. 

Beverly

2210 Englewood Avenue
(and yes, the city did replace the street sign and the park sign that was torn from the yard as a result of the most recent incident)



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Recent events and public discussions have uncovered an apparent discrepancy in the application of jurisprudence regarding the permitting and repermiting of ABC licenses that allow some business locations here in Durham with extensive criminal activity to continue operating without regard to the health and safety of the neighborhood surrounding these locations.



At last months PAC 2 meeting, many residents expressed a vocal displeasure with the NC ABC Commission and it’s rulings regarding several instances of violent acts, fencing and/or drug sales in locations that have ABC permits.   Feelings expressed can be summarized by the fact that simply slapping permitees with simple fines or requiring attendance at a training program does not match the number or severity of those violations in several examples that were cited at the meeting



This was further aggravated when it was subsequently discovered that only two ABC permits have been revoked in NC over the past year despite the repeated arrest and convictions of both owners (or spouses) and/or employees of those businesses for multiple serious crimes.



At the Durham Businesses Against Crime (DBAC) meeting on Thursday November 4th, after presentations by the DPD Commander of District Two, Captain Larry Smith and Wanda Boone of Durham TRY along with reviewing the NC State General Statutes DBAC voted unanimously to voice our concern to the ABC Board about these issues and ask it to start protecting the citizens of NC by abiding to the provisions of NC GS 18b-904 (e) (3) which provides for revocation of a permit if “it finds evidence that the permittee or the permitees employee has been found responsible by a court of competent jurisdiction or the Commission for two or more violations of separate dates of knowingly allowing a violation of the gambling, disorderly conduct, prostitution, controlled substances, or felony criminal counterfeit trademark laws……”.



We encourage the five PAC’s and the InterNeighborhood Council to thoughtfully consider this position and join Durham TRY, the DPD and other community organizations in seeing a long needed change in how liquor licenses are issued, regulated and enforced.



North Carolina State statutes legislate these actions and it is beyond many residents objective understanding why the ABC Board of NC doesn’t.





Mike Shiflett

President, Durham Businesses Against Crime



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Original Message----- 

  From: Beverly Tucker 
  Sent: Oct 10, 2010 2:50 PM 
  To: Kelly Jarrett , Ian Kleinfeld , owdna at yahoogroups.com, whhna-list-bounces at rtpnet.org 
  Subject: Re: [owdna] Destinee's needs to go! 2 shootings in its short life to date? It's brought nothing positive to the neighborhood and needs to take itsbusiness -- legal and otherwise -- elsewhere. Just MHO. 

  perhaps the owner(s) can/should be invited to attend an upcoming neighborhood meeting ...  



    -----Original Message----- 
    From: Kelly Jarrett 
    Sent: Oct 10, 2010 3:55 PM 
    To: Ian Kleinfeld , owdna at yahoogroups.com 
    Subject: Re: [owdna] Destinee's needs to go! 2 shootings in its short life to date? It's brought nothing positive to the neighborhood and needs to take itsbusiness -- legal and otherwise -- elsewhere. Just MHO. 

      
    Brand new business and two shootings already? Not much to talk about IMHO. They can take their business elsewhere. They've contributed nothing to the neighborhood except bullet casings and wrecked cars and an abandoned (and probably stolen) gun. 

    Ian Kleinfeld <mydesignguy at gmail.com> wrote:

    >I'm with Liz on this.* "I imagine that it would be more neighborly to try to
    >talk to the owners to see what the problem is here, rather than the first
    >line of defense being trying to pull the license. "*
    >
    >My initial question is, were the shootings carried out by the same people or
    >groups? What has been done by the police so far? Is there a way to get rid
    >of the problem people while supporting a local business that is filling up
    >an otherwise empty spot?
    >
    >I'll go talk to the owner(s) and see if I can get some answers for the
    >neighboorhood.
    >
    >If the answer is that there's no way to have Destinee's without shootings,
    >then obviously it has to go. If not, maybe there's something that the
    >neighborhood can do to support a business that wants to be here.
    >
    >Ian
    >
    >-----------------
    >Ian Kleinfeld
    >Mishagos Design
    >919.357.6004
    >www.mishagos.com






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