[Durham INC] INC-list Digest, Vol 107, Issue 11

Tue Nov 12 16:46:58 EST 2013

http://www.opendurham.org/buildings/durham-county-courthouse-annex-social-services

Here is the OpenDurham listing for the building. Looks like we lost the
historical building here in 1961. I agree that open space next to a thruway
is never going to be usable as "performance space." Central Park is very
nearby.  If they want to "expose" the old courthouse, then sell the lot and
insist that any new building have equal setback and blend in.
Susan Sewell

On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 4:31 PM, <inc-list-request at rtpnet.org> wrote:

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>    1. Re:  Fw: Public Meeting - proposed demolition of the      Durham
>       Social Services Building (John Martin)
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> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 13:28:04 -0800 (PST)
> From: John Martin <bulldurhamnc at yahoo.com>
> To: Dorothy Potter Snyder <letsspeakspanish at gmail.com>, Tom Miller
>         <tom-miller1 at nc.rr.com>
> Cc: "inc-list at durhaminc.org" <inc-list at durhaminc.org>
> Subject: Re: [Durham INC] Fw: Public Meeting - proposed demolition of
>         the     Durham Social Services Building
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> That's it. ?The correct street number is actually 220 East Main St.
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> >________________________________
> > From: Dorothy Potter Snyder <letsspeakspanish at gmail.com>
> >To: Tom Miller <tom-miller1 at nc.rr.com>
> >Cc: John Martin <bulldurhamnc at yahoo.com>; inc-list at durhaminc.org
> >Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 4:05 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Durham INC] Fw: Public Meeting - proposed demolition of the
> Durham Social Services Building
> >
> >
> >
> >Is this the building to which you refer? D. Snyder
> >
> >
> >
> >On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Tom Miller <tom-miller1 at nc.rr.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >John is right.? We need another useless ?public plaza? like a hole in the
> head.? If we are willing to covert this property into a revenue-neutral of
> revenue-negative proposition, I say let?s lease it to a developer for 20-30
> years for a minimal amount of rent and impose conditions that the property
> be renovated and maintained to a certain standard.? During the life of the
> lease, the developer would get the value of his investment back and at the
> end of the lease, the county would have the building back none to worse for
> wear.? AND downtown Durham wouldn?t wind up with another gap in its skyline.
> >>?
> >>Tom
> >>?
> >>From:inc-list-bounces at rtpnet.org [mailto:inc-list-bounces at rtpnet.org]
> On Behalf Of John Martin
> >>Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:28 AM
> >>To: inc-list at durhaminc.org
> >>Subject: [Durham INC] Fw: Public Meeting - proposed demolition of the
> Durham Social Services Building
> >>?
> >>I'm forwarding this appeal from Preservation Durham for citizens to show
> up at tonight's hearing on the future of the former DSS ?office building at
> 200 E. Main St. ?
> >>?
> >>Regardless of whether you are a preservationist or not, tearing down
> this building and leaving the site empty makes no sense.? Downtown Durham
> is already suffering from too much empty space (and this goes double for
> the areas around Roxboro St. and east). ?If the building is truly not worth
> rehabbing, and it is going to be torn down, the empty lot should be offered
> for sale to a developer who will actually build something desirable on the
> site.
> >>?
> >>The idea of a plaza there is a fiasco in the making right out of the
> 1950's urban renewal playbook. ?Those of you have been around Durham as
> long as I have can remember the Redevelopment Commission which did a lot of
> tearing down, and not much redevelopment. ?
> >>?
> >>I hope to see you there tonight.
> >>?
> >>John
> >>?
> >>----- Forwarded Message -----
> >>>From:Preservation Durham <info at preservationdurham.org>
> >>>To: bulldurhamnc at yahoo.com
> >>>Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 5:40 PM
> >>>Subject: Public Meeting - proposed demolition of the Durham Social
> Services Building
> >>>?
> >>>
> >>>??
> >>>?
> >>>?JOIN US - VOICE YOUR OPINION
> >>>on the proposed demolition of the former DSS office located at 200 E.
> Main Street
> >>>?
> >>>Tuesday, November 12, 2013 @ 6:00 pm
> >>>Human Services Building, Countywide Meeting Room A
> >>>414 E. Main Street?
> >>>?
> >>>?
> >>>?
> >>>Durham County Government is holding a public input session regarding
> the proposed demolition of this building, located at 200 E. Main Street,
> for the creation of a public plaza.
> >>>?
> >>>Why this issue matters:?
> >>>     * This is an awful location for a plaza. ?Constant street noise
> and exhaust from the Durham Freeway and Roxboro Street will omnipresent and
> will not support a relaxing atmosphere.?
> >>>     * What purpose does the proposed plaza serve that is not already
> met by CCB Plaza, American Tobacco and other downtown open spaces?
> >>>     * Demolition will further reduce the connections from Downtown
> Durham to East Durham and Golden Belt
> >>>     * Demolition does not support the Downtown Durham Master Plan
> which specifically sets out the need for connectivity along main street. ?A
> gap where this building is would be would further decrease the number of
> people on E. Main Street, and the number of people willing to venture east.
> >>>     * Creation of a public plaza, that does not generate tax revenue
> and requires continual maintenance, is not in the best fiscal interest of
> the City or County.
> >>>     * Demolition will erase part of Durham's history
> >>>     * Demolition will decrease the supply of office space, and further
> increase downtown rents
> >>>Other Options:
> >>>     * Rental office space or sale of the building
> >>>     * Selling the building would bring further commercial development
> to East Main and make further connections to the city's investments in East
> Durham.?
> >>>Preservation Durham
> >>>P.O. Box 25411
> >>>Durham, North Carolina 27702
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