[Durham INC] Charter School Data

Fri May 1 12:16:59 EDT 2015

Part of the discrepancy in the number of students taking the test is that I believe EOGs don't start until the third grade. So K – 2 students would not be taking them

I agree the testing isn't perfect and it doesn't always give teachers the data they need to plan instruction. But I did want to point out the charter schools disclose the same information that all the public schools do. Dick

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> On May 1, 2015, at 11:43 AM, Elizabeth Paley Ph.D. <espaley at duke.edu> wrote:
> 
> I wasn't at the meeting where this issue came up, but I've been following the conversation about student performance/demographics as it's of interest to me as a parent who follows DPS/charter issues.
> 
> I find the student report card info pretty useless as a measurement of student performance, and it certainly isn't helpful when it comes to demographic data. Note that the specific school linked to below, Healthy Start Academy (http://www.ncreportcards.org/src/schDetails.jsp?Page=2&pSchCode=000&pLEACode=32B&pYear=2012-2013) had 374 students total in 2012-13. Of those, 202 took the EOGs, for which data is split into demographic subsections. What of the other 172 students? It's hard to draw any useful conclusions about the make up of the entire student body when 46% of the students are left out of the data. Were the 202 students representative of the entire student body? Was their performance on the EOGs representative? One can ask the same questions for every other school in the state; it's also possible that the reasons some kids weren't tested vary from school to school. This makes it hard to use the given data to compare schools, or to draw meaningful conclusions about a single school.
> 
> The most recent data, for 2013-14, is introduced here (http://www.ncpublicschools.org/src/ , the first link Dick provided) and located here (https://ncreportcards.ondemand.sas.com/SASVisualAnalyticsViewer/VisualAnalyticsViewer_guest.jsp?reportPath=/ReportCard/NC_SRC&reportName=NC+Report+Cards/). I find the organization of the latter incomprehensible to the point of being useless (for which, as long as we're in a state that likes giving out grades, I give SAS and the NCGA an F). Data is a little more user-friendly at http://www.wral.com/nc-report-card-results-by-school/14425865/ , but there's no demographic info.
> 
> --Liz
> 
>> On 5/1/2015 9:58 AM, Jose Sandoval wrote:
>> Richard,
>> 
>> I can see that the percentage of Economic Disadvantage is included. I am going to modify my slides and add the information for the Chartered Schools. 
>> 
>> Thank you for letting me know.
>> 
>> 
>> José Miguel Sandoval
>> 3 Barkridge Court
>> Durham NC
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Richard Ford <rbford at aim.com> wrote:
>>> Take a look at this page for a charter school the section of the performance by student group.  http://www.ncreportcards.org/src/schDetails.jsp?Page=2&pSchCode=000&pLEACode=32B&pYear=2012-2013  
>>> 
>>> It shows white, Hispanic and African American performance, as well as performance by Economically Disadvantaged and Non Econ Dis.
>>> 
>>> Let me know if this helps. As far as I am aware, charters report all the same data as other public schools.  
>>> 
>>> Dick
>>>> On Apr 30, 2015, at 3:21 PM, Philip Azar <pazar at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I thought charter schools weren’t required to provide free                         and reduced lunches.  Perhaps the issue isn’t that they don’t report, but that the report is a null set?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 30, 2015, at 10:33 AM, Jose Sandoval <sandoval.jm11 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I visited the website you referred. I could not find any information on the issue of reduced and free lunches which I used in my presentation as a proxy to establish of poverty among Hispanic families with children in the Durham Public Schools. Don made the question specifically on whether or not Chartered Schools report this information. I could not find it, as I said during the presentation. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> They produced a two page report with information on enrollment, science courses, teachers and EOG scores. Information on reduced or free lunch is not available. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> José Miguel Sandoval
>>>>> 3 Barkridge Court
>>>>> Durham NC
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Richard Ford <fordrich1970 at icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>> A question came up at tonight’s delegate meeting about charter school data.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Charter schools post the same data as all other public schools, such as EOG scores, student demographics etc. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All this data is reported to the Department of Public Education. It can be accessed at   http://www.ncreportcards.org/src/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dick
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