[Durham INC] neighborhood definition for INC

[Tom Miller]

The idea was never about voting - ever.  It was about a neighborhood have
critical mass as a neighborhood - real geographic area with enough people
involved to be a real community.  There are real neighborhood boundaries in
every town.  It's hard to express what the determining factors are, but it's
got to make sense.  Whether we can articulate the criteria of boundaries or
not doesn't mean they don't exist.  We don't want just a street or a
neighborhood watch area, but a real neighborhood.  Not just pieces of a
neighborhood, but all of it.  This may mean that the folks who live there
have to want to function as a neighborhood and have to be willing to do some
work to make the neighborhood function together and speak with one voice.

 

A  "neighborhood" with fewer than 40 households is going to have a very hard
time holding together a functioning neighborhood organization.  Either it
will last for a couple of years or an issue and then fail or it will become
intensely personal to one or two people who don't really make much effort to
promote collective decision making.  A neighborhood with fewer than 40
households is probably part of a bigger neighborhood and should be
incorporated into that bigger neighborhood.

 

This is why we set the bar where we set it - not out of any concern about
who gets to vote at INC meetings.

 

I oppose reducing the threshold without a better reason than any that has
been advanced so far.

 

Tom

 

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I'd expect the same answer, Will - although forming a neighborhood
association wouldn't be hard given that foundation.

While I think INC is just as capable today, it doesn't seem to assist in
neighborhood forming as much as it once did. :-( 

 

As I understand it, the size requirement was to prevent larger neighborhoods
from splitting into four smaller ones to carry four votes instead of one.
That doesn't seem like a safeguard that we need these days. 

 

Some neighborhoods are incapable of growing beyond a certain size due to a
number of reasons. They are still neighborhoods in my eyes, their input (via
their rep) can be just as valuable, and INC is stronger with more
neighborhoods than less.

 

I hope we modify this small part of our by-laws, and not reject small
neighborhoods when they express thier interest.


Bill

Bill Anderson

 

In a message dated 6/1/2015 2:16:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
<mailto:willwilsn at gmail.com> willwilsn at gmail.com writes:

I brought this up a couple years ago, but in the area I live in the 
neighborhood, in part, is organized primarily by a listserv and not a 
board or HMO. Can that qualify as a neighborhood for INC? (I recall the 
answer was no..)

Will Wilson

On 6/1/2015 2:12 PM, Susan Sewell wrote:
> I think neighborhood is more than a few homes in an HMO and I think having
> a homes limit means that small units get to know their neighbors in common
> use and need and that is a good thing.  As infill of TLNA continues, we
> will have dozens of tiny HMOs within our boundaries, set up to manage
storm
> water management areas. So I think one co-housing unit needs their
> neighbors to form a neighborhood association. The idea of neighborhood is
> looking beyond your own land.
> My 2 cents,
> Susan Sewell
>
>
> And PLEASE remove the copies of the minutes - there were 6 trailing on the
> last comments.  Maybe we need a lesson on how to comment to a post without
> copying that post in this new system. I didn't figure it out, just deleted
> them all.
>
>
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