<div dir="ltr">Thank you Grace! I will share this with my colleagues on the INC.<br><br>--Richard Ziglar<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <strong class="gmail_sendername" dir="auto">Smith, Grace</strong> <span dir="auto"><<a href="mailto:Grace.Smith@durhamnc.gov">Grace.Smith@durhamnc.gov</a>></span><br>Date: Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 11:37 AM<br>Subject: Re: Follow-up on current SCAD position (ref: TC2200001)<br>To: R Z <<a href="mailto:richard.ziglar@gmail.com">richard.ziglar@gmail.com</a>><br>Cc: Cahill, Alexander <<a href="mailto:Alex.Cahill@durhamnc.gov">Alex.Cahill@durhamnc.gov</a>>, Dobrzenski, Bo <<a href="mailto:Bo.Dobrzenski@durhamnc.gov">Bo.Dobrzenski@durhamnc.gov</a>>, Young, Sara <<a href="mailto:sara.young@durhamnc.gov">sara.young@durhamnc.gov</a>>, Planning Email General <<a href="mailto:Planning@durhamnc.gov">Planning@durhamnc.gov</a>><br></div><br><br><div class="msg8179694021369693402">
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you may land on the 2023 page so be sure to </span>click<span style="font-size:12pt"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt;background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">2022</span><span style="font-size:12pt"> to access December agenda </span>and<span style="font-size:12pt"> </span>approved<span style="font-size:12pt"> minutes. </span></span></font></span></div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 23, 2023 10:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Young, Sara <<a href="mailto:sara.young@durhamnc.gov" target="_blank">sara.young@durhamnc.gov</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Cahill, Alexander <<a href="mailto:Alex.Cahill@durhamnc.gov" target="_blank">Alex.Cahill@durhamnc.gov</a>>; Dobrzenski, Bo <<a href="mailto:Bo.Dobrzenski@durhamnc.gov" target="_blank">Bo.Dobrzenski@durhamnc.gov</a>>; Smith, Grace <<a href="mailto:Grace.Smith@durhamnc.gov" target="_blank">Grace.Smith@durhamnc.gov</a>>; Planning Email General <<a href="mailto:Planning@durhamnc.gov" target="_blank">Planning@durhamnc.gov</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Follow-up on current SCAD position (ref: TC2200001)</font>
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In regards to your note below:<br>
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<i>"<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Please let me know if your reference to the Planning Commission's version below is in regard to the proposed amendment
<b>or if you'd like a copy of the Planning Commission's recommendation/position. </b>
For the former, y</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">ou can access the version of the proposal that the Planning Commission voted on </span><a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.durhamnc.gov%2fDocumentCenter%2fView%2f47570%2fTC2200001-Simplifying-Codes-for-Affordable-Development-SCAD-PDF&c=E,1,mwLa2hDbQsPoXRYxxGDJSSiwTbl5NyeAYeUIa_kz9XHj8dh0tz80rhzqzvBjzBMD9aNdH4V8Lww0SfdvkolGvKL6r2p3FOnMjh4ScyrUjauQYpTfeO0,&typo=1" title="https://www.durhamnc.gov/DocumentCenter/View/47570/TC2200001-Simplifying-Codes-for-Affordable-Development-SCAD-PDF" style="margin:0px" target="_blank">online</a></i><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><i> anytime
(it will not be taken down). "</i><br>
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How can I get a copy of the PC's position that was voted on? I would like to see the </span>PC’s actual recommendation. What is that specifically? At the meeting they said it was made up of their own requested changes and the staff’s position. What was the
PC’s final advice to the council?<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br>
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<div dir="ltr"><font face="arial, sans-serif">On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 5:13 PM Young, Sara <<a href="mailto:sara.young@durhamnc.gov" target="_blank">sara.young@durhamnc.gov</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font face="arial, sans-serif">Staff has not yet scheduled the SCAD proposal for a specific City Council meeting date, though I can tell you it will definitely
<b>not </b>be before March (given internal deadlines). We are currently working on reviewing the most recent revisions proposed by the applicants. Once we complete that we will schedule the item for a City Council meeting date and write a new staff report that
will be included in the agenda materials that the City Council receives. We will be happy to share that staff report with you once it is ready. Please let me know if your reference to the Planning Commission's version below is in regard to the proposed amendment
or if you'd like a copy of the Planning Commission's recommendation/position. For the former, y<span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);display:inline">ou can access the version of the proposal that the Planning Commission voted on </span><a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.durhamnc.gov%2fDocumentCenter%2fView%2f47570%2fTC2200001-Simplifying-Codes-for-Affordable-Development-SCAD-PDF&c=E,1,cxrImDumhOdzOHGPeLuTJ6aVdBU1IfEvS9cyjtLVr_VhnhsNv3OJxEAAyog1_zMfe-kfedWzhcYuaSXoP3PAqhch3K3_PFENVIxH4KUIAzLXV1erVHH5D9y9N_8,&typo=1" title="https://www.durhamnc.gov/DocumentCenter/View/47570/TC2200001-Simplifying-Codes-for-Affordable-Development-SCAD-PDF" style="margin:0px" target="_blank">online</a><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);display:inline"> anytime
(it will not be taken down).<span> </span></span></font></div>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font face="arial, sans-serif">You are correct that the Planning Commission is purely advisory and that the City Council has complete discretion in approving or denying an item such as this. The
Council is not required to follow the advise of the Planning Commission in making their decision.</font></div>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font face="arial, sans-serif">I have copied a few of my colleagues so we can make sure to follow back up with you.</font></div>
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<div id="m_6346255014384503569x_m_5868825701132013978divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><font color="#000000"><b>From:</b> R Z <<a href="mailto:richard.ziglar@gmail.com" target="_blank">richard.ziglar@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 12, 2023 3:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Planning Email General <<a href="mailto:Planning@durhamnc.gov" target="_blank">Planning@durhamnc.gov</a>>; Young, Sara <<a href="mailto:sara.young@durhamnc.gov" target="_blank">sara.young@durhamnc.gov</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Cahill, Alexander <<a href="mailto:Alex.Cahill@durhamnc.gov" target="_blank">Alex.Cahill@durhamnc.gov</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Follow-up on current SCAD position (ref: TC2200001)</font> </font>
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<div dir="ltr"><font face="arial, sans-serif">Hi Ms. Young,<br>
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As an active member of my local neighborhood association and also as a member of the
<span id="m_6346255014384503569x_m_5868825701132013978x_:154.2" role="menuitem">InterNeighborhood</span> Council, I am very concerned about the SCAD UDO text amendment proposal (Unified Development Ordinance Text Amendment, Simplifying Codes for Affordable Development (TC2200001)).<br>
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If I recall correctly it failed by a 50/50 vote in the last Planning Commission (PC) meeting.
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Could I have a written copy of your staff’s current position on SCAD and a copy of the PC’s version? Where does this thing go from here? I did not see it on the next City Council (CC) agenda but I'm assuming it will go there for a vote soon.<br>
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Also I would like some clarification on the relationship between the PC and the CC. As far as I know, any PC vote is advisory only and the CC may vote to approve or not approve changes in the UDO (or any other matter) regardless of the advice they receive from
the PC. Is that the case?<br>
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Thanks so much,<br>
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Richard Ziglar<br>
BANA Rep, INC-Durham</font></div>
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