INC NEWS - Herald Sun editorial

[Ken Gasch]

Melissa,

This is a good idea and one that came up in my neighborhood.

Unfortunately, it cannot be applied in older neighborhood.  You agreed to
these rules when you bought your home in a new neighborhood.  I believe it
is called a "covenant" and it is written into your deed.

You cannot make this agreement retroactive.  In other words, I just can't
start fining people in my neighborhood.  They are under no obligation to
pay.

Ken Gasch

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Melissa Rooney" <mmr121570 at yahoo.com>
To: "Richard Mullinax" <rcmj at nc.rr.com>
Cc: "Reyn Bowman" <Reyn at Durham-cvb.com>; "City group council"
<council at ci.durham.nc.us>; "inc" <INC-list at rtpnet.org>; "old north"
<oldnorthdurham at yahoogroups.com>; "pac ii" <pac2 at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: INC NEWS - Herald Sun editorial


> I just wanted to add that as a resident in a
> relatively new neighborhood in Southern Durham, our
> board of directors and management company regularly
> notify people (via written letter) to move their trash
> to the appropriate (hidden) place on non-pickup days;
> and if we neighbors do not comply, we are landed with
> what-can-become hefty fines, albeit they go to our
> neighborhood association.
>
> There is no reason that neighborhoods in the part of
> Durham I call "Durham Proper" (i.e. city
> neighborhoods) should not have the same right to
> enforce neighborhood aesthetics and safety. In fact,
> in the current situation, they appear to be 'behind
> the times.'
>
> Thanks,
> Melissa Rooney
>
> 301 Spring Garden Drive
> Durham, NC 27713
> 919 484 9737
>
>
> --- Richard Mullinax <rcmj at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > Old North Durham took it on the chin today in the
> > Herald Sun editorial
> > as having residents who 'complained' about cans left
> > at curb for days.
> > If this issue has a negative impact on your
> > neighborhood., please
> > contact the paper to let them know. Old North Durham
> > cannot be alone in
> > this, because this issue far from started in Old
> > North Durham.
> >
> > I have been trying at PAC II meetings for several
> > months, and at every
> > small meeting I am in, to end the use of the word
> > complaint. When I see
> > a cart at curb and call the city to make a report of
> > what I saw, I am
> > not filing a complaint. What I saw I reported on and
> > that makes me a
> > reporter, and a much closer partner to the solution
> > than a complainer
> > could ever be. Please work to end the use of
> > 'complaint' in your
> > neighborhood.
> >
> > I also sent word to Ginny about carts that never
> > leave the curb. The
> > Editorial suggested that they are left for days. In
> > reality many of the
> > carts I counted have been curbside for years. My
> > count was done on
> > Wednesday and the City did one on Monday. Our
> > collection day is Friday.
> > Both counts were over 200 for about 1200 units. It
> > was enough for me to
> > be a proactive partner with Solid Waste.
> >
> > The City is working on the data and is trying to
> > come up with a list of
> > why people do this. The goal it to set up the best
> > method of prevention.
> > I am so thankful for the Solid Waste Department
> > partnership on this
> > issue. In particular the agreement we share that
> > education seems to be
> > the tool with the most effect.
> >
> > A large portion of the Editorial was dedicated to
> > people being
> > overtaxed. Fees are just another way of saying
> > taxes, while fines imply
> > that the person earned the right to pay them
> > separate of any tax burden.
> > Working to clarify these would have been a great
> > help. The City staff
> > hope is that a system with clear fines available
> > will result in not one
> > single charge. The fines being a last resort after
> > repeated contacts
> > have proved futile. Thanks also to Ginny for clearly
> > stating once on
> > Monday that fines may need to be considered for
> > 'chronic offenders'.
> >
> > After several years of working with different
> > partners on this issue, I
> > was discouraged by the Editorial tone. I look
> > forward to future reports,
> > from Ginny, about changes in the current methods we
> > as neighborhoods and
> > City deal with carts being left as hazard and
> > eyesore at curbside.
> >
> > I am also thankful to Bob Ashley for being available
> > to talk about this
> > with me. He and I both look forward to people giving
> > feedback on this
> > issue. Please let the paper know how you feel. For
> > me there are several
> > other issues more important, but this one should not
> > be overlooked or
> > trivialized.
> >
> > Richard Mullinax
> > 921 N Mangum St
> > 680-3883
> >
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