INC NEWS - Next Act: Fat Lady Sings

[kjj1 at duke.edu]

Pat:
Point well made. Agreed. And perhaps folks should consider whether the 
quorum concerns at the last meeting might have something to do with tedious 
online arguments over trivialities?

Just a thought.

Kelly
--On Wednesday, April 04, 2007 9:12 AM -0400 pat carstensen 
<pats1717 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> INC has never been really clear what "INC" stands for.  I have 3 copies
> of  by-laws with 3 different spellings:  Inter-Nbhd, Inter Nbhd, and
> InterNbhd  (they spell out Neighborhood, I'm lazy (-;).  Just this week,
> I sent a note  to someone about Inter Neighborhood, got back a response
> talking about  Inter-Neighborhood.  As far as I can tell, it's always
> been a "probability  cloud" on the name, and it hasn't killed us in 22
> years
>
> We should probably re-vote at the next meeting because of quorum concerns.
>
> I think INC should have much bigger issues to work on than logos and
> spelling of the name -- pace of development in south Durham, speed of
> traffic on our streets, services like parks and libraries, etc.
>
> Regards, pat
>
>
>> From: "RW Pickle" <randy at 27beverly.com>
>> To: inc-list at durhaminc.org
>> Subject: INC NEWS - Next Act: Fat Lady Sings
>> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 01:25:07 -0400 (EDT)
>>
>> Looking at the posted draft minutes, it becomes apparent that our vote to
>> change the spelling and adopt the modified DCVB branding as a logo was
>> moot. There were not enough members present to vote on anything. So as
>> much as Bill Anderson has decided it's a done deal, it looks like we
>> still have the fat lady left to sing. And as we all know, it not over
>> until she gets her opportunity.
>>
>> So perhaps we can use this time to discuss what benefits these changes
>> might bring to INC. Bill said it was unnecessary to discuss this any
>> further. I think he is incorrect in that assumption. It appears this
>> decision, for better or for worse, is still on the table. So I'd like to
>> hear from those who think the idea is good, that the spelling is better,
>> and the adoption of a branding icon (that we have already been told is
>> subject to change as it has in the past) will be for INC. If it's such a
>> good idea, then there should be plenty of reasons and discussion about
>> why we'd be making this change. Otherwise, as I contend, it makes no
>> sense.
>>
>> I'll give you a head start before I get started. There are a number of
>> reasons why this is a bad idea and it's not that simple (or cheap) to fix
>> any of it. But better yet, why are we changing anything in the first
>> place? Whose idea was this anyway? I've not missed any meetings to have
>> missed a conversation where any of us addressed why this was good, bad,
>> or otherwise. Are we just that bored and have so much time and money that
>> there are not more important issues to deal with than stringing 17
>> letters together to form a new spelling of our name? Shouldn't INC have
>> its own identity (logo) after almost 23 years? Durham is supposed to be
>> full of the "creative class". We hear that all the time. Did we even
>> ask? Perhaps they would have a better suggestion...
>>
>> Why don't we open it up to all the "creative" folks and just see what we
>> get? What do we have to lose? How could it be wrong to involve our
>> community? After all, it's the neighborhoods that all the creative folks
>> live in that make up this City and our organization. Why not reach out to
>> them and see what they can come up with. "The Great INC Logo Contest". I
>> can see it now. Even the art classes in the schools can add it to their
>> project list. We could even offer a prize to the winners. Heck, if they
>> don't change the spelling, just look at the money we'll save...
>>
>> Our friends at the newspapers can advertise it. We could even have
>> sponsors to make the winners pot large enough to attract some big fish.
>> Or maybe just helping out INC and the neighborhoods we serve might be
>> enough to draw them in. Sort of a "giving Back" to the community if you
>> will.
>>
>> It's time INC had a brand. Not something we share with everyone else
>> across the City. The change sets us up to change it again, and again, and
>> again as the Durham brand changes. And every time it does, it may create
>> the same headache it does at this time. Why make future INC groups suffer
>> through it ever again? Let's move forward with something we'll all be
>> proud of and something that is INC, not a Durham brand.
>> SuperCalaFragiListicExpiAlaInterNeighborhoodCouncil is just a bad...
>> Neither fits on a tee shirt very well. Our brand is INC and that is what
>> we should push forward with.
>>
>> Tell us why this is such a great idea if there is any reasoning behind
>> this change. Inquiring minds want to know.
>>
>> RWP
>> 27 Beverly
>>
>>
>>
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