INC NEWS - Act Now For NC's Future -- support the transfer fee or impact

bragin at nc.rr.com bragin at nc.rr.com
Tue Jul 17 17:02:32 EDT 2007



every time i go to the grocery store and buy a loaf of bread and a
gallon of milk, there's a 2% transfer fee added on to my purchase.

Can we do away with that as well?

Barry Ragin

----- Original Message -----
From: Melissa Rooney <mmr121570 at yahoo.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 4:52 pm
Subject: Re: INC NEWS - Act Now For NC's Future -- support the
transfer fee	or impact
To: csevick at alumni.unc.edu, inc-list at durhaminc.org

> That is my understanding of the legislation as well,
> Chris. And that's the reason for my support of the
> transfer tax. 
> 
> The alternative is waiting longer for desperately
> needed legislation with regard to the impact fee (on
> new development), and I fear that by then it will be a
> mute point, at least for Durham County (since there
> will be little land left to develop).
> 
> I presume the passage of the current transfer tax
> legislation will give Durham the ability to impose
> such an impact fee...that is, that the impact fee (on
> new development) would be considered a 'type' of
> 'transfer fee,' and thus would FINALLY be legal for
> Durham County. If this is the case, once the transfer
> fee legislation is passed, then we can lobby our
> county gov't for imposition solely on new development.
> 
> 
> Some believe the transfer tax legislation is an all or
> none deal, but I'm still trying to get definitive
> clarification on this.
> 
> Since Orange and Person counties can already legally
> impose impact fees, it is only fair that other
> counties be able to do so. Even withdrawal of Orange
> and Person counties' ability to impose these
> restrictive fees would not be fair to other counties,
> since Orange and Person have already financially
> benefited from impact
> fees for years.
> 
> At any rate, I emailed our Durham County legislators
> to ask that, if they approve the transfer tax
> legislation, they 1) exempt renovators from this tax
> and 2) exempt senior citizens who have lived in the
> county for 10 years or more.
> 
> At least one response has indicated that negotiations
> are still on the table, and that this request will be
> passed on to the legislators.
> 
> Thanks for the continued discussion,
> Melissa
> 
> --- Chris Sevick <csevick at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> > Bill,
> > 
> > I'm a bit confused by your opposition to the real
> > estate transfer tax bill.  As I understand it, if
> > the bill passes, it won't mean that the transfer tax
> > will be imposed.  It just means that each NC county
> > will have the authority to let it's residents vote
> > on whether or not to institute the tax.
> > 
> > Even if you oppose the tax, you should support this
> > bill.  If the majority of the people in this county
> > don't want the tax, they can just vote against it. 
> > I can't think of a much more democratic way to
> > address the issue.  If we really care about our
> > local community, we should entrust our local
> > community with these decisions.
> > 
> > - Chris Sevick
> > 
> > =====================
> > From: TheOcean1 at aol.com
> > Date: 2007/07/16 Mon PM 08:34:46 CDT
> > To: mmr121570 at yahoo.com, inc-list at durhaminc.org
> > Subject: Re: INC NEWS - Act Now For NC's Future --
> > support the transfer fee	or impact ...
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> > <DIV>
> > <DIV>
> > <DIV>
> > <DIV>I hate to disagree so strongly with one of my
> > favorite community activists, 
> > but I must.</DIV>
> > <DIV> </DIV>
> > <DIV>In fact, after reading your Melissa's letter,
> > I'd suggest using the email 
> > addresses below for exactly the opposite purpose, to
> > ask our representatives to 
> > oppose this bill.</DIV>
> > <DIV> </DIV>
> > <DIV>Here's my reasoning:</DIV>
> > <DIV> </DIV>
> > <DIV>While the county's impact fee was recently over
> > ruled, I think it was well 
> > aimed at new construction.</DIV>
> > <DIV>It is after all, the new families moving in
> > that create the new burdens on 
> > our school systems and infrastructure. This tax has
> > a much greater effect on 
> > the SELLER of property, than the newcomer moving in,
> > as it is passed to the 
> > seller in the selling price of real estate.</DIV>
> > <DIV> </DIV>
> > <DIV>Even Melissa recognized this, with the
> > exception she tried to include of 
> > historic properties. But it's an "all or nothing at
> > all" bill, and that 
> > exception can not be incorporated. Sorry Melissa,
> > but would you still support 
> > this bill if you knew that your friendly amendment
> > can't be incorporated?</DIV>
> > <DIV> </DIV>
> > <DIV>For that reason, far too much of this new
> > burden would be borne by senior 
> > citizens selling their almost historic home they
> > built years ago, as 
> > they try to raise the needed funds to move to a
> > retirement community, while 
> > they pass their homes to up and coming families.
> > Those new families will 
> > renovate those older homes, while they add to the
> > burden. Their entire 
> > neighborhoods will experience great gains in
> > property values as multiple 
> > properties change hands in this way, and in each
> > case it will be the exiting 
> > senior citizen who's once again paid the toll. This
> > time, it happens at the time 
> > they can least afford it, at the tail end of them
> > paying their "share" of the 
> > burden, thirty years after their children
> > <U>stopped</U> adding to it.</DIV>
> > <DIV> </DIV>
> > <DIV>No, I do NOT support this bill, and I hope
> > others will join me in 
> > opposition. </DIV>
> > <DIV> </DIV>
> > <DIV>If Melissa's amendment could be included, then
> > I'd agree she's right on 
> > target. Taxing new construction logically places the
> > burden where it's being 
> > created, but as it is crafted, this bill unfairly
> > burdens our senior citizens, 
> > and discourages renovation and revitalization of
> > areas of North Carolina, such 
> > as East Durham.</DIV>
> > <DIV> </DIV>
> > <DIV>Let's not discourage the private sector from
> > undertaking the expensive and 
> > risky investment they've shown willingness to make,
> > in the most historic 
> > sections of Durham, while we unfairly whack our
> > elders with the expenses of 
> > folks who've noticed that our city tops a lot of
> > lists as a smart place to live. 
> > Let the incoming plants pay for the new top soil
> > required.</DIV>
> > <DIV> </DIV>
> > <DIV>Join me in opposition and let our
> > representatives know how you feel. </DIV>
> > <DIV> </DIV>
> > <DIV>Bill Anderson</DIV>
> > <DIV>(apologies to Melissa)</DIV>
> > <DIV> </DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV>In a message dated 7/16/2007 8:36:49 P.M.
> > Eastern Daylight Time, 
> > mmr121570 at yahoo.com writes:</DIV>
> > <BLOCKQUOTE 
> > style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
> > BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><FONT 
> >   style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial
> > color=#000000 size=2>Please 
> >   see the forwarded message below. And
> > please<BR>write your legislators 
> >   regarding the right of local<BR>governments to
> > impose transfer taxes and/or 
> >   impact<BR>fees.<BR><BR>I have also attached the
> > letter I sent to the 
> >   members<BR>of the General Assembly who represent
> > Durham County --<BR>in case 
> >   you need some help to get started. <BR><BR>The
> > email addresses for Durham 
> >   County
> > Representatives<BR>are:<BR><BR>Larryh at ncleg.net,
> > Paull at ncleg.net, 
> >   Mickeym at ncleg.net,<BR>Winkiew at ncleg.net,
> > Boba at ncleg.net, 
> >   Floydm at ncleg.net<BR><BR>Thank you for caring
> > :)<BR>Melissa<BR><BR>Melissa 
> >   Rooney<BR>mmr121570 at yahoo.com<BR><BR>Note:
> > forwarded message 
> >  
> >
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