INC NEWS - Act Now For NC's Future -- support the transfer fee or impact
Kelly Jarrett, DISC
kjj1 at duke.edu
Tue Jul 17 17:04:29 EDT 2007
Barry:
Of course not--sales tax is a regressive tax, they're really in right now.
Kelly
bragin at nc.rr.com wrote:
> every time i go to the grocery store and buy a loaf of bread and a
> gallon of milk, there's a 2% transfer fee added on to my purchase.
>
> Can we do away with that as well?
>
> Barry Ragin
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Melissa Rooney <mmr121570 at yahoo.com>
> Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 4:52 pm
> Subject: Re: INC NEWS - Act Now For NC's Future -- support the
> transfer fee or impact
> To: csevick at alumni.unc.edu, inc-list at durhaminc.org
>
>
>> That is my understanding of the legislation as well,
>> Chris. And that's the reason for my support of the
>> transfer tax.
>>
>> The alternative is waiting longer for desperately
>> needed legislation with regard to the impact fee (on
>> new development), and I fear that by then it will be a
>> mute point, at least for Durham County (since there
>> will be little land left to develop).
>>
>> I presume the passage of the current transfer tax
>> legislation will give Durham the ability to impose
>> such an impact fee...that is, that the impact fee (on
>> new development) would be considered a 'type' of
>> 'transfer fee,' and thus would FINALLY be legal for
>> Durham County. If this is the case, once the transfer
>> fee legislation is passed, then we can lobby our
>> county gov't for imposition solely on new development.
>>
>>
>> Some believe the transfer tax legislation is an all or
>> none deal, but I'm still trying to get definitive
>> clarification on this.
>>
>> Since Orange and Person counties can already legally
>> impose impact fees, it is only fair that other
>> counties be able to do so. Even withdrawal of Orange
>> and Person counties' ability to impose these
>> restrictive fees would not be fair to other counties,
>> since Orange and Person have already financially
>> benefited from impact
>> fees for years.
>>
>> At any rate, I emailed our Durham County legislators
>> to ask that, if they approve the transfer tax
>> legislation, they 1) exempt renovators from this tax
>> and 2) exempt senior citizens who have lived in the
>> county for 10 years or more.
>>
>> At least one response has indicated that negotiations
>> are still on the table, and that this request will be
>> passed on to the legislators.
>>
>> Thanks for the continued discussion,
>> Melissa
>>
>> --- Chris Sevick <csevick at verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Bill,
>>>
>>> I'm a bit confused by your opposition to the real
>>> estate transfer tax bill. As I understand it, if
>>> the bill passes, it won't mean that the transfer tax
>>> will be imposed. It just means that each NC county
>>> will have the authority to let it's residents vote
>>> on whether or not to institute the tax.
>>>
>>> Even if you oppose the tax, you should support this
>>> bill. If the majority of the people in this county
>>> don't want the tax, they can just vote against it.
>>> I can't think of a much more democratic way to
>>> address the issue. If we really care about our
>>> local community, we should entrust our local
>>> community with these decisions.
>>>
>>> - Chris Sevick
>>>
>>> =====================
>>> From: TheOcean1 at aol.com
>>> Date: 2007/07/16 Mon PM 08:34:46 CDT
>>> To: mmr121570 at yahoo.com, inc-list at durhaminc.org
>>> Subject: Re: INC NEWS - Act Now For NC's Future --
>>> support the transfer fee or impact ...
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>>> <DIV>
>>> <DIV>
>>> <DIV>I hate to disagree so strongly with one of my
>>> favorite community activists,
>>> but I must.</DIV>
>>> <DIV> </DIV>
>>> <DIV>In fact, after reading your Melissa's letter,
>>> I'd suggest using the email
>>> addresses below for exactly the opposite purpose, to
>>> ask our representatives to
>>> oppose this bill.</DIV>
>>> <DIV> </DIV>
>>> <DIV>Here's my reasoning:</DIV>
>>> <DIV> </DIV>
>>> <DIV>While the county's impact fee was recently over
>>> ruled, I think it was well
>>> aimed at new construction.</DIV>
>>> <DIV>It is after all, the new families moving in
>>> that create the new burdens on
>>> our school systems and infrastructure. This tax has
>>> a much greater effect on
>>> the SELLER of property, than the newcomer moving in,
>>> as it is passed to the
>>> seller in the selling price of real estate.</DIV>
>>> <DIV> </DIV>
>>> <DIV>Even Melissa recognized this, with the
>>> exception she tried to include of
>>> historic properties. But it's an "all or nothing at
>>> all" bill, and that
>>> exception can not be incorporated. Sorry Melissa,
>>> but would you still support
>>> this bill if you knew that your friendly amendment
>>> can't be incorporated?</DIV>
>>> <DIV> </DIV>
>>> <DIV>For that reason, far too much of this new
>>> burden would be borne by senior
>>> citizens selling their almost historic home they
>>> built years ago, as
>>> they try to raise the needed funds to move to a
>>> retirement community, while
>>> they pass their homes to up and coming families.
>>> Those new families will
>>> renovate those older homes, while they add to the
>>> burden. Their entire
>>> neighborhoods will experience great gains in
>>> property values as multiple
>>> properties change hands in this way, and in each
>>> case it will be the exiting
>>> senior citizen who's once again paid the toll. This
>>> time, it happens at the time
>>> they can least afford it, at the tail end of them
>>> paying their "share" of the
>>> burden, thirty years after their children
>>> <U>stopped</U> adding to it.</DIV>
>>> <DIV> </DIV>
>>> <DIV>No, I do NOT support this bill, and I hope
>>> others will join me in
>>> opposition. </DIV>
>>> <DIV> </DIV>
>>> <DIV>If Melissa's amendment could be included, then
>>> I'd agree she's right on
>>> target. Taxing new construction logically places the
>>> burden where it's being
>>> created, but as it is crafted, this bill unfairly
>>> burdens our senior citizens,
>>> and discourages renovation and revitalization of
>>> areas of North Carolina, such
>>> as East Durham.</DIV>
>>> <DIV> </DIV>
>>> <DIV>Let's not discourage the private sector from
>>> undertaking the expensive and
>>> risky investment they've shown willingness to make,
>>> in the most historic
>>> sections of Durham, while we unfairly whack our
>>> elders with the expenses of
>>> folks who've noticed that our city tops a lot of
>>> lists as a smart place to live.
>>> Let the incoming plants pay for the new top soil
>>> required.</DIV>
>>> <DIV> </DIV>
>>> <DIV>Join me in opposition and let our
>>> representatives know how you feel. </DIV>
>>> <DIV> </DIV>
>>> <DIV>Bill Anderson</DIV>
>>> <DIV>(apologies to Melissa)</DIV>
>>> <DIV> </DIV></DIV>
>>> <DIV>In a message dated 7/16/2007 8:36:49 P.M.
>>> Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> mmr121570 at yahoo.com writes:</DIV>
>>> <BLOCKQUOTE
>>> style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
>>> BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><FONT
>>> style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial
>>> color=#000000 size=2>Please
>>> see the forwarded message below. And
>>> please<BR>write your legislators
>>> regarding the right of local<BR>governments to
>>> impose transfer taxes and/or
>>> impact<BR>fees.<BR><BR>I have also attached the
>>> letter I sent to the
>>> members<BR>of the General Assembly who represent
>>> Durham County --<BR>in case
>>> you need some help to get started. <BR><BR>The
>>> email addresses for Durham
>>> County
>>> Representatives<BR>are:<BR><BR>Larryh at ncleg.net,
>>> Paull at ncleg.net,
>>> Mickeym at ncleg.net,<BR>Winkiew at ncleg.net,
>>> Boba at ncleg.net,
>>> Floydm at ncleg.net<BR><BR>Thank you for caring
>>> :)<BR>Melissa<BR><BR>Melissa
>>> Rooney<BR>mmr121570 at yahoo.com<BR><BR>Note:
>>> forwarded message
>>>
>>>
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