[Durham INC] Please write Durham city council with support for the Bullet Ownership Bill

RW Pickle randy at 27beverly.com
Wed Jan 7 23:30:26 EST 2009


What folks fail to realize is that there really is no system in place
(right now) that can accurately determine who is even a criminal, much
less for something like this. But hopefully that will all be changing this
year if we can get the Legislature to fund it. City law enforcement can't
even talk to the computers of the County law enforcement. Same for the
State and the Feds. The whole system of checking anything is messed up
because of the different databases. Once this is fixed, then something
like this has a chance of working.

I'd rather see Council push the Legislature for database integration
across the board; City, County, State, Feds. So when Orange County arrests
the fellow who was involved with Eve Carson's death, they'll know he is on
probation in Durham (or something like that; he should have been kept in
jail 2 weeks prior to killing her, but the left hand could not talk to the
right hand to know why...).

Anyone can make their own bullets if they so desire. And for a lot less
than you can buy them. Or just jump online and get them here:

http://www.a1ammo.com/

We're only a hour drive from Virginia, go get them there. Or if it does
ever make it into law, you'll see "ammo houses" like you see liquor
houses. Or maybe even the crack dealers will start carrying them to
supplement their income. You have to be 21 in order to buy handgun bullets
and most of the crimes being committed with guns around here are by much
younger folks. So they're getting them somewhere already. And there is
really no way (like registration of each bullet) to track where they come
from. I heard a story from a Police Officer about the very first time
crack came to Durham; how it got here and who brought it from where. They
know all this. It came from NYC. No reason bullets couldn't come the same
way...

And how would this check for the person who has been committed to a mental
institution previously? What do you do, ask them? A lot of the problems we
have are directly related to "crazy" people with guns. What about them
buying bullets?

It sounds like a good idea, but it'll never work. Would it hurt anyone to
make this a reality? Not really, but I think the push from the other
direction relates to the fact that it's no one's business if they buy
bullets or not. I'm not against the idea. I just can't see it working
until we get all the databases talking to each other so we can find out
all the information that is available on a person when needed. Therein
lies the problem with this bullet idea...

Do a little homework before you embrace an idea. Only dead fish follow the
stream...

RWP
27 Beverly

> Hi folks. And happy new year.
>
> There is an initiative in Durham to have NC require identification (based
> on background check) for the purchase of bullets as well as guns. This
> item will be considered by the city council at their legislative session
> (during which they determine the issues they will push with the NC State
> legislature) tomorrow at 11 AM.
>
> I have attached an article that gives detailed information regarding this
> bill, as well as the email I sent to the city council this morning.
>
> I have been told that city council has received a plethora of emails in
> opposition to this bill and that the NRA has begun a campaign against it.
> So our gov't officials really need to hear from those who are in favor of
> the bill.
>
> Please take a moment and offer support for this bill by emailing the city
> council TODAY, and ask others to do so:
> council at ci.durham.nc.us
>
> Thanks!
> Melissa
>
> Melissa Rooney, Ph.D.
> 301 Spring Garden Drive
> Durham, NC 27713
> mmr121570 at yahoo.com
>
>
> --- On Wed, 1/7/09, Melissa Rooney <mmr121570 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Melissa Rooney <mmr121570 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Please support the Bullet Ownership Bill
> To: council at ci.durham.nc.us
> Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 10:18 AM
>
> I am writing with strong support for Reverend Whitley's ongoing fight to
> require ID cards for the purchase of bullets.
>
> Convicted felons are not permitted to own guns, so why on earth would they
> need bullets?
>
> It is ridiculous that our country, not only our state, doesn't require
> registration for both. If this results in ammunition labs, as argued by
> Paul Valone's Herald Sun guest column (Dec 21, 2008), then the latter is a
> far more serious crime than buying bullets, and it should result in the
> arrest, conviction and punishment of the culprits who should not be buying
> guns, bullets, or any other such deadly materials in the first place.
> Furthermore, it must be significantly more difficult to build such an
> ammunition lab than to buy bullets from the nearest Walmart. By Mr.
> Valone's arguments, teenage alcohol distilleries should be a common
>  occurence.
>
> Surely the number of people dying from bullets discharged by those who
> aren't allowed to own guns in the first place, would equal or surpass the
> dangers associated with these hypothetical ammunition labs.
>
> Given the state of our probation system, in which inadequate staff cannot
> even account for the whereabouts of many on probation, we should at least
> put this minor hurdle in the path of criminals wishing to acquire
> ammunition.
>
> Please push the NC legislature to at least require a minimal background
> check for people who purchase bullets. If they need to register to
> purchase a gun in the first place, then it should not be a major
> production to require presentation of their gun registration in order to
> purchase bullets. I had to go through at least that much effort in order
> to get a Durham County Library card (photo id, utility bill, etc.).
>
> Sincerely,
> Melissa Rooney
>
> Melissa Rooney, Ph.D.
> 301 Spring Garden
>  Drive
> Durham, NC 27713
> mmr121570 at yahoo.com
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