[Durham INC] FYI: Poisoned Waters on Frontline tonight
Melissa Rooney
mmr121570 at yahoo.com
Tue Apr 21 14:15:34 EDT 2009
See attached/below..from my neighborhood listserv...
Melissa
--- On Mon, 4/20/09, undisclosed wrote:
Hi all!I just listened to a very timely interview on NPR-Fresh Air with the journalist who investigated non-point source water pollution in our estuaries, rivers and streams from uncontrolled urban growth & industrial scale agriculture. I highly recommend it. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=103278837 The journalist talked about how grass roots environmental activism made a difference in the type of development in certain counties of Virginia. He talked about how the local strategy was to "retail environmental issues" so that everyone could relate to the impacts (traffic, redistricting of schools, lack of green space and pollution).
The interview was a promotion for the investigative piece called "Poisoned Waters" on Frontline tomorrow night Tuesday April 21, 2009 http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/poisonedwaters/ on.Wendy Diaz
On Apr 20, 2009, at 3:41 PM, Reeves Young wrote:
I have a copy of their rezoning and plan amendment submittal but haven't read every word. Others are welcome to take a look. C.
--- On Mon, 4/20/09, steve bocckino <ncbocck at mindspring.com> wrote:
From: steve bocckino <ncbocck at mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Indy Report on BOCC Meeting
To: "TG" <tgensic at nc.rr.com>
Cc: rcyoung4 at verizon.net, "Kimberly D Preslar" <preslark at lenovo.com>, kathryn6668 at yahoo.com, "Wendy" <wendy at uniqueplacesllc.com>, kjfisher1 at aol.com, "Sean Giovanello" <giovanello at gmail.com>, "John Kent" <jkent at tmug.org>, "Bob Healy" <healy at duke.edu>, "Nancy Cox" <scrapping.nancy at verizon.net>, "don moffitt" <d.moffitt at verizon.net>, "Melissa Rooney" <mmr121570 at yahoo.com>, "George Brine" <gabrine013 at msn.com>, pullmans at aol.com, "James McManus" <jmpmcmanus at yahoo.com>, "Duncan Heron" <duncan.heron at duke.edu>, "Judy Thomson" <thomsonranch at verizon.net>, "Wendy Diaz" <wdiaz2 at nc.rr.com>, "Dave Austin" <durhampa at mindspring.com>, "tom miller" <tom-miller1 at nc.rr.com>, "Curt Devereux" <cdevereux at nc.rr.com>, "pat carstensen" <pats1717 at hotmail.com>, "Julia Borbely-Brown" <julia.borbely-brown at self-help.org>, "Milo Pyne" <liatris at mindspring.com>, "Nancy Herndon" <nancy_herndon at yahoo.com>, "Tina" <tinamotley at earthlink.net>, "Elaine Chiosso" <chiosso at hawriver.org>, "Judy
Teague" <paisana at nc.rr.com>, "Edward C. Harrison" <ed.harrison at mindspring.com>, "Will Wilson" <wgw at duke.edu>, "Kathi Beratan" <kkberata at ncsu.edu>, "John Schelp" <bwatu at yahoo.com>
Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 3:13 PM
Sometimes there is an economic analysis with the development plan, often not.
The city does one if there is an annexation. If the developer wants to pipe
perennial streams, they have to file an economic justification with the
state—DENR, I think. I haven't checked which streams flow across the 751
site.
Steve
On Apr 20, 2009, at 2:52 PM, TG wrote:
> That should have been presented as a part of their development plan which
should be on file in the City/County Planning web page.
>
>
> ---- Kathryn Spann <kathryn6668 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> =============
> Has anyone made a similar request for all documents submitted to the BOCC,
Planning, etc. that contain economic analysis that supports the developer's
claimed economic benefits?
> We need to get this info one way or another so we can start examining its
premises. I have frequently found such claims to be deeply flawed, but we
can't address the flaws if we can't see their submissions.
>
> --- On Mon, 4/20/09, Reeves Young <rcyoung4 at verizon.net> wrote:
> From: Reeves Young <rcyoung4 at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: Indy Report on BOCC Meeting
> To: "TG" <tgensic at nc.rr.com>, "Kimberly D
Preslar" <preslark at lenovo.com>
> Cc: "John Schelp" <bwatu at yahoo.com>, "Curt
Devereux" <cdevereux at nc.rr.com>, "Elaine Chiosso"
<chiosso at hawriver.org>, "Duncan Heron"
<duncan.heron at duke.edu>, "Dave Austin"
<durhampa at mindspring.com>, "don moffitt"
<d.moffitt at verizon.net>, "Edward C. Harrison"
<ed.harrison at mindspring.com>, "George Brine"
<gabrine013 at msn.com>, "Sean Giovanello"
<giovanello at gmail.com>, "Bob Healy" <healy at duke.edu>,
"John Kent" <jkent at tmug.org>, "James McManus"
<jmpmcmanus at yahoo.com>, "Julia Borbely-Brown"
<julia.borbely-brown at self-help.org>, "Kathryn Spann"
<kathryn6668 at yahoo.com>, kjfisher1 at aol.com, "Kathi Beratan"
<kkberata at ncsu.edu>, "Milo Pyne" <liatris at mindspring.com>,
"Melissa Rooney" <mmr121570 at yahoo.com>, "Nancy
Herndon" <nancy_herndon at yahoo.com>, "Steve Bocckino"
<ncbocck at mindspring.com>, "Judy Teague"
<paisana at nc.rr.com>, "pat carstensen"
<pats1717 at hotmail.com>, pullmans at aol.com, "Nancy Cox"
<scrapping.nancy at verizon.net>, "Judy Thomson"
<thomsonranch at verizon.net>,
> "Tina" <tinamotley at earthlink.net>, "tom miller"
<tom-miller1 at nc.rr.com>, "Wendy Diaz" <wdiaz2 at nc.rr.com>,
"Wendy" <wendy at uniqueplacesllc.com>, "Will Wilson"
<wgw at duke.edu>
> Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 1:53 PM
>
>
> Adding insult to injury, N.H. is requesting all public documents and
communications going back to 2000 to and from commissioners, departments,
appointed people and independent contractors regarding this issue. He might be
requesting any communications regarding Cree as well.
>
> Currently IT doesn't have the ability to accomplish this but will have
software installed in a few months (but past the May 13 deadline that Hunter has
given) that would make the task possible. Mecklenberg County had a similar
situation and they needed to hire an outside firm to the tune of $300,000 to do
the work. As I understand it, once the documents are retrieved, the County
Attorney's office will have to look at each document and black out any
personal information such as constituents phone number. Obviously when faced
with this type of task, mistakes are unavoidable.
>
> The bottom line is, this issue could have been settled months ago at a
cost of less than $100,000 and now the taxpayer likely will be charged to hire
an outside firm in addition to the staff time taken up. The state legislature
requires that the county absorb these costs and the only cost to one requesting
such information is a charge for the copies. Meanwhile county budget
deliberations are going on with department cuts, social service cuts and funding
cuts to non-profits. This type of tactic will also discourage citizens from
writing to their elected officials for fear of retaliation by rich, powerful,
disgruntled people.
>
> Letters of outrage to the editor are highly encouraged.
>
> Regards,
> Carol
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Kimberly D Preslar <preslark at lenovo.com>
> Subject: Re: Indy Report on BOCC Meeting
> To: "TG" <tgensic at nc.rr.com>
> Cc: "John Schelp" <bwatu at yahoo.com>, "Curt
Devereux" <cdevereux at nc.rr.com>, "Elaine Chiosso"
<chiosso at hawriver.org>, "Duncan Heron"
<duncan.heron at duke.edu>, "Dave Austin"
<durhampa at mindspring.com>, "don moffitt"
<d.moffitt at verizon.net>, "Edward C. Harrison"
<ed.harrison at mindspring.com>, "George Brine"
<gabrine013 at msn.com>, "Sean Giovanello"
<giovanello at gmail.com>, "Bob Healy" <healy at duke.edu>,
"John Kent" <jkent at tmug.org>, "James McManus"
<jmpmcmanus at yahoo.com>, "Julia Borbely-Brown"
<julia.borbely-brown at self-help.org>, "Kathryn Spann"
<kathryn6668 at yahoo.com>, kjfisher1 at aol.com, "Kathi Beratan"
<kkberata at ncsu.edu>, "Milo
> Pyne" <liatris at mindspring.com>, "Melissa Rooney"
<mmr121570 at yahoo.com>, "Nancy Herndon"
<nancy_herndon at yahoo.com>, "Steve Bocckino"
<ncbocck at mindspring.com>, "Judy Teague"
<paisana at nc.rr.com>, "pat carstensen"
<pats1717 at hotmail.com>, pullmans at aol.com, rcyoung4 at verizon.net,
"Nancy Cox" <scrapping.nancy at verizon.net>, "Judy
Thomson" <thomsonranch at verizon.net>, "Tina"
<tinamotley at earthlink.net>, "tom miller"
<tom-miller1 at nc.rr.com>, "Wendy Diaz" <wdiaz2 at nc.rr.com>,
"Wendy" <wendy at uniqueplacesllc.com>, "Will Wilson"
<wgw at duke.edu>
> Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 10:35 AM
>
> Unbelievable. Ironically, this demonstrates the unprofessional,
> name-calling behavior you were expressing concern about. It's also
highly
> concerning that we have an elected official who is essentially
discouraging
> a constituent from participating in the democratic process and referring
to
> them as a fool.
>
> Kim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> TG
> <tgensic at nc.rr.co
> m>
To
> kjfisher1 at aol.com, Wendy
> 04/17/2009 10:49 <wendy at uniqueplacesllc.com>,
Sean
>
> PM Giovanello
<giovanello at gmail.com>,
>
> Steve Bocckino
> <ncbocck at mindspring.com>, John
> Kent
> <jkent at tmug.org>, Bob Healy
>
> <healy at duke.edu>, Nancy Cox
>
> <scrapping.nancy at verizon.net>,
don
>
> moffitt
<d.moffitt at verizon.net>,
>
> Melissa Rooney
> <mmr121570 at yahoo.com>, George
> Brine
> <gabrine013 at msn.com>,
>
> pullmans at aol.com,
> rcyoung4 at verizon.net, James McManus
> <jmpmcmanus at yahoo.com>, Judy
>
> Thomson
> <thomsonranch at verizon.net>,
> Duncan Heron
> <duncan.heron at duke.edu>, Kim
>
> preslar <preslark at lenovo.com>,
>
> Wendy Diaz <wdiaz2 at nc.rr.com>,
> Dave
> Austin
<durhampa at mindspring.com>,
>
> tom miller
> <tom-miller1 at nc.rr.com>,
> Kathryn Spann
> <kathryn6668 at yahoo.com>, pat
>
> carstensen
<pats1717 at hotmail.com>,
>
> Curt Devereux
> <cdevereux at nc.rr.com>, Julia
>
> Borbely-Brown
>
> <julia.borbely-brown at self-help.org>
> , Milo Pyne
> <liatris at mindspring.com>,
Nancy
>
> Herndon
<nancy_herndon at yahoo.com>,
>
> Tina
<tinamotley at earthlink.net>,
>
> Elaine Chiosso
> <chiosso at hawriver.org>, Judy
> Teague
> <paisana at nc.rr.com>,
"Edward
> C.
> Harrison"
>
> <ed.harrison at mindspring.com>,
Will
>
> Wilson <wgw at duke.edu>, Kathi
>
> Beratan <kkberata at ncsu.edu>,
John
>
> Schelp <bwatu at yahoo.com>
>
> cc
>
> Subject
> Re: Indy Report on BOCC Meeting
>
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> I thought you might be interested in the response to my letter received
> from Commissioner Page:
>
> This meeting was run in a professional manner and there was no name
> calling, you have no reason to be embarras. As a matter of fact,
don't
> send me this kind of ignorant email again as you need to get your facts
> together. For the record, it was not commissioner Cousin but Commissioner
> Bowser so if you are going to find fault get the names corrected. If you
> don't understand all the facts that were presented then get them and
then
> began to address the issue at hand. We were not kept out of jail as a
> matter of fact when this does in up in a court of law I would like to seek
> your opinion then. Don't send me this foolishness again, wasting my
time
> reading this junk. Michael Page
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TG <tgensic at nc.rr.com>
> To: beckymheron at nc.rr.com; brendahowerton10 at yahoo.com; ereckhow at aol.com;
> jbowser2 at nc.rr.com; mdelanopage at aol.com
> Sent: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:52 am
> Subject: 751 Assemblage
>
> Commissioners Heron, Reckhow, Howerton. Thank you for your vote to
provide
>
> reasoned process to this issue. Commissioners Page, Cousin. You should
> thank
> these ladies for keeping you out of jail.
>
> I am embarassed by the behavior shown at the meeting. As my governmental
> representatives, I was shocked by some of ya'll's lack of decorum
and
> name
> calling. I urge you to run meetings in a respectful, professional way.
>
> Let me emphatically say that I am definitely pro development - but not at
> any
> cost; not the creation of a mini-city adjacent to our water supply; not to
> a
> development project that tries to find loopholes - or make them - to
> advance
> their cause.
>
> I live adjacent to the project in the Chancellor's Ridge Subdivision,
and
> have
> attended a number of meetings regarding this project - and watched others.
>
> Please note: Chancellor's Ridge has a new development to the north
> (Huntington
> Ridge) the beginning of a development to the east (Toll Brothers). I did
> not
> oppose either of the developments because they do not attempt to ruin the
> protected zone around Lake Jordan. I do, however, oppose the 751
> Assemblage and
> encourage you to vote against it in any and all matters that come before
> you.
>
> 1. The Comprehensive Master Plan shows this area as Rural Residential
> 2. The Jordan Watershed map shows this as a critical protection area.
> 3. The UDO shows this area as RR-2 (maximum of 2 residential units per
> acre)
> 4. Already unbearable traffic along 751 will continue to escalate
> causing
> safety issues.
> 5. The rules of the game (Comprehensive Plan, UDO, etc.) were well known
>
> prior to the purchase of the land for $1.7 M.
>
> Calling this an economic development project and using multiplier stats to
> bolster heavy claims of job increases is just wrong. Construction jobs
> from
> this project would be transitory. Permanent jobs from this project would
> be
> minimum wage. Is that the kind of job opportunity we should seek or
> support
> with our drinking water reservior on the line? It is my opinion that our
> economic development capital (including our development process) should go
> to
> those projects that will create wealth in the community - primarily the
> support
> of industrial development. The 751 project just "isn't".
>
> My neighbor, Mr. Avitabile, would have you believe that all of
Chancellor's
>
> Ridge supports this project. In fact, I know of only two people in the
> subdivision that support it - Mark, and Shane Kirk. As a homeowner in the
> area,
> I have again and again encouraged a survey of all of the residents here.
> But it
> was never done. I dare to say that if a survey were done, the
> preponderence of
> residents would be against it.
>
> In short, thank you for your votes to use a legal process to make a
> decision
> rather than using the good old boy's backroom cigar-smoking
decision-making
>
> process.
>
> Trisha Gensic
> 2 Curriculum Court
> Durham
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