[Durham INC] Tom Bonfield~ [pac2] Property Managers - how tofind out about them?
Ethel Simonetti
ethel at tubaexchange.com
Fri Sep 18 17:26:56 EDT 2009
Great idea, Mike, re DAHC dealing with the landlord registry. Thanks.
Can someone bring this up at the low income housing non-profit roundtable
and related DAHC sponsored events in Oct?
Super idea,
Ethel
On 9/16/09 11:42 AM, "M. W. Shiflett - Hotmail" <mwshiflett at hotmail.com>
wrote:
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> All,
>
> For me, I believe that the Campaign for Decent Housing would be the logical
> 'lead' organization to orchestrate this.
>
> While I am a big fan of both INC and the PAC's, it makes more sense to me to
> use Lorisa Seibel and the Campaign as the champion agency that already has a
> deeper knowledge, historical background and institutional memory regarding
> landlord responsibility.
>
> Besides having an in-depth understanding of tenant duties and leasing
> agreements between a landlord and a renter, the CDH also understands the
> affect that contract has on those parties AND the impact it has on surrounding
> neighbors and the city at large when things don't go as smoothly as everyone
> expects.
>
> It'd make perfect sense to have the Campaign to coordinate the coalition
> (including INC, the PAC's, Durham CAN, Realtors, etc) rather than have each
> one trying to replicate a new wheel.
>
> Mike Shiflett
>
>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Matthew Dudek <mailto:matt.dudek at gmail.com>
>>
>> To: Darius.M.Little at alumni.unc.edu
>>
>> Cc: Tom.Bonfield at durhamnc.gov ; pac2 at yahoogroups.com ; inc-list at durhaminc.org
>> ; TheOcean1 at aol.com
>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:04 AM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Durham INC] Tom Bonfield~ [pac2] Property Managers - how
>> tofind out about them?
>>
>>
>> I know we've talked about wanting this in the Cleveland-Holloway
>> neighborhood before. I also know this was a recommendation that came out of
>> some neighborhood planning exercises in North East Central Durham.
>>
>>
>> I'd love to see INC and the PACs champion this issue and make it a campaign
>> issue. Let's finally get this on the agenda and make this happen.
>> Transparency and accountability are never bad things.
>>
>>
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>> Matt Dudek
>>
>> 502 Mallard Ave.
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>> 919 381 7577
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>> On Sep 16, 2009, at 9:48 AM, Darius.M.Little at alumni.unc.edu wrote:
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>>>
>>> FYI: not a candidate plug here, but wanted to add for you that this idea is
>>> great and in some areas has successfully been implemented. I know over
>>> near Southpoint Mall, in my neck of the woods, we've had situations where
>>> we wanted to talk to property owners about various issues with tenants
>>> (after not 'getting through' to the lessee directly - and wanting to avoid
>>> confrontation, but ended-up in the PO-Box-Galaxy-of-Neverfind). In our
>>> area, it is now understood that all property management companies report to
>>> the Homeowner's Association of that subdivision, which properties they own
>>> in that neighborhood.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd be happy to assist Mr. Bonfield, or anyone, in executing this endeavor,
>>> as I've been through it before.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Darius
>>>
>>>
>>> "And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall
>>> receive." [Matt 21:22]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: TheOcean1 at aol.com
>>> To: Tom.Bonfield at durhamnc.gov; pac2 at yahoogroups.com
>>> Cc: inc-list at durhaminc.org
>>> Sent: Tue, Sep 15, 2009 6:55 pm
>>> Subject: [Durham INC] Tom Bonfield~ [pac2] Property Managers - how to find
>>> out about them?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hold on, 3 years is a long time in Durham. Maybe our new city manager likes
>>> the idea, perhaps Pensacola even had a similar program. Or maybe he won't
>>> like the idea, but let's give him a chance to tell us.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mr. Bonfield,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What are your thoughts regarding property managers simply registering with
>>> the city a list of the properties they manage?
>>>
>>> As pointed out below, community activists have been interested in this for
>>> years, because of an occasional need to contact the responsible party. But
>>> I would think city staff has a much more regular need for the same
>>> information, surprised the request hasn't been coming from them, instead of
>>> the community.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill Anderson
>>>
>>> PAC2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 9/15/2009 1:26:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> kjj1 at duke.edu writes:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Elizabeth--
>>>> Good luck pushing this issue. It is nearly impossible to find out who
>>>> manages properties. It strikes me as odd in this age of databases & ease
>>>> of making information widely available, that something as simple as
>>>> requiring property managers to submit an excel spreadsheet listing all the
>>>> properties they manage to a central clearinghouse where it could be made
>>>> available to the public is a big deal. But it seems to be. Property
>>>> managers resist it and the city seems to go along with them.
>>>>
>>>> It was last pushed hard 3-4 years ago. There is always a great deal of
>>>> interest from neighborhood associations and citizens and a fair amount of
>>>> resistance from property managers and city officials.
>>>>
>>>> Kelly Jarrett
>>>>
>>>> Steve Graff wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Elizabeth,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is one of the biggest struggles, finding out who to contact about
>>>>> problems with a property in the neighborhood. As you have discovered, the
>>>>> Durham GIS system only lists the name and address for the property owner
>>>>> (no phone number), but no information for the property management
>>>>> company. Often times, the owner is in another state entirely, and the
>>>>> address listed is a P.O. box.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sometimes with the name and address you can use a search engine such as
>>>>> Google to try to find additional information for the owners. Other times,
>>>>> this information is not available.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As an example, there is a four-plex apartment building just down the
>>>>> street from us. About a year ago it was purchased and renovated by the
>>>>> new owners, including replacing all of the windows. I was glad to see
>>>>> this happen as this apartment building was the scene of a shooting a few
>>>>> years ago.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Everythi ng seemed to be going well up until recently. Then tenants
>>>>> started to play loud music at all time of day and night. Then they
>>>>> started throwing their trash into the ravine next to the building. Then
>>>>> we started to hear loud arguments. Then we started to hear glass bottles
>>>>> being broken on the ground. Then I started to see drug deals occurring
>>>>> there. Then one of the residents started speeding up and and down the
>>>>> street at 60+ mph endangering the residents who walk up and down this
>>>>> street (where there are no sidewalks).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There was a big thread on various PAC mailing lists about the need for a
>>>>> property registry sometime earlier this year. The need is clear. There
>>>>> needs to be some way to contact property managers to notify them to
>>>>> concerns about their property, so that they can take appropriate action
>>>>> before bad renters trash their property and continue to continue to trash
>>>>> the neighborhood.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve Graff
>>>>>
>>>>> President
>>>>>
>>>>> Old North Durham Neighborhood Association
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.oldnorthdurham.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> slgraff at gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 15, 2009, at 10:37 AM, elizabeth_gill99 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Walltown is reactivating Neighborhood Watch, we are starting with a few
>>>>>> blocks with the hope of growing. Question: we know how to find out who
>>>>>> owns properties on the City web site, but is there a easy way to find
>>>>>> out who manages them? I don't mind contacting delinquent owners but
>>>>>> would love to contact the property managers too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Elizabeth K. Gill
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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