[Durham INC] Fwd: Support the marriage amendment
kacie martin
kcmartin at clearwire.net
Tue Sep 13 06:44:58 EDT 2011
a forward from my longtime companion...
--kcm
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> From: Ellen Whitaker <whitaker-e-s at clearwire.net>
> Date: September 12, 2011 8:30:23 PM EDT
> To: kacie martin <kcmartin at clearwire.net>
> Subject: Re: [Durham INC] Support the marriage amendment
>
> Dear Christine,
>
> Generally when people write about sexual orientation, they write
> from their own experience. They assume that what is true for them is
> true for others. I think it is fairly safe to assume that people who
> think sexual orientation is a choice have themselves made a choice.
> Perhaps they have had same-sex attraction that they are repressing.
> This does not make such a person heterosexual. It makes them a
> bisexual who is repressing same-sex attractions. It is not such a
> person's place to insist that other bisexuals do the same. And such
> a person needs to understand that not everyone is bisexual. Many
> people are born either heterosexual or homosexual.
>
> I find it interesting that you mention people "reverting" back to
> heterosexuality. Someone who is actually homosexual has been so
> their entire lives, since before they even knew what sex is. There
> is no heterosexuality to "revert" back to. These college friends of
> yours are either bisexuals who later chose to repress their same sex
> attractions, or they are still homosexuals living a heterosexual
> life and making themselves and their spouses miserable, or else they
> are heterosexuals, who while they were drunk once or twice
> experimented to satisfy their curiosity.
>
> Your email post was very bizarre. Do you think that all gay people
> have a drinking problem? Do you think that alcoholism causes
> homosexuality? If you "love your homosexual friends," why would you
> not want them to have the same rights that you have?
>
> Gay people do not choose to be gay; straight people do not choose to
> be straight; and bisexual people do not choose to be bisexual. Each
> of us is whatever we are in terms of our sexual orientation just as
> surely as each of us has an eye color that will not change.
> Bisexual people may choose to repress same sex attractions, knowing
> that society will more readily accept them if they are in a
> heterosexual relationship, but that does not mean they are
> heterosexual. It simply means they don't act on homosexual feelings.
>
> Right-handed people outnumber left-handed people. It is not natural
> for left-handed people to write with their right hand. And it is
> not morally wrong to be left-handed, despite the fact that right-
> handed people are the norm. Heterosexuals outnumber homosexuals.
> This does not make being gay morally wrong. Love is love. A desire
> for commitment with someone you love is a good thing. Encouraging
> people to make a commitment to a stable relationship is a good
> thing, not only for the individuals concerned, but also for society.
>
> Making people feel inferior and actually writing discrimination into
> a constitution can't help but create mental health problems for
> individuals and difficulties for society. I would think that as an
> educator, you would be well aware that the state constitution is not
> the place to make mandatory limitations on human rights.
>
> Sincerely,
> Ellen Whitaker
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Christine Chamberlain <christinebbd at yahoo.com>
> Date: September 12, 2011 3:41:39 PM EDT
> To: "INC-list at rtpnet.org" <INC-list at rtpnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Durham INC] Support the marriage amendment
> Reply-To: Christine Chamberlain <christinebbd at yahoo.com>
>
> I'm new to this list serve, and from what I've seen so far this
> group has a wide and diverse group of people.
>
> I love my friends who are homosexual, and I will always be there to
> support them through thick and thin. It is not my business to judge
> their choices in partners whether they be homo or hetero. I have 3
> friends from college, who were homosexual while in college, and all
> 3 chose to revert back to heterosexual after receiving counseling
> for alcoholism. 2 are married with children, the 3rd is engaged.
>
> I've lived in NC since 1994 and I'm the founder of the first charter
> school in NC, Healthy Start Academy. My school is 99% black, always
> has been, although I'm white and my white daughter attended the
> school. The state tried to shut my school down because it was
> mostly black (and failed after the national news media spread the
> news from coast to coast).
>
> Having said this, I must say I support the constitutional amendment
> banning same sex marriage. The gay/lesbian agenda is to piggy-back
> racial issues, and this doesn't gain them much sympathy from black
> families. You can't choose to be black. You can't choose to be
> white. You CAN choose to be gay or lesbian.
>
> I'm sure my opinion won't be popular among some of you, please send
> all hate mail privately rather than to the list
>
> Christine Chamberlain
>
>
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