[Durham INC] Neighborship

Mon Feb 6 15:35:40 EST 2012

Hi all,

I have never posted on Durham INC before, but I've followed it for quite some time. I'm the current mailing list manager for Rockwood. We happen to use Yahoo! Groups. I agree with Shelly that I don't think that Neighborship is claiming any sort of endorsement by any particular homeowner's or neighborhood association. Furthermore, I would ask those who have asked him to stop using the neighborhood names to perhaps reconsider their request. I know that Rockwood, for example, has no "official" association. We tried once, a while back, but it kind of fell apart. What was left, however, was the unmoderated mailing list that I've managed over the years, moving it to Yahoo groups when we had to move off of the UNC listserv. And as it turns out, that's worked well for us over the years. Harmut also approached me about moving the Rockwood list to Neighborship. The timing for us was bad, because I had just moved us to Yahoo groups not too long back and it took a decent amount of effort to get everyone to move and this was just replacing one emailing list to another. I also share many of the concerns expressed here about moving to something more complicated and a more overtly commercial model. But at the same time, Harmut should be free to promote his platform which does in fact have many additional and innovative features. I can not claim to own the name "Rockwood" and I don't think it is fair to prevent his use of the name to identify the neighborhood within his product either. Of course, this is my own personal opinion and I don't mean to appear as a representative of the Rockwood list as a whole.

Ketan Mayer-Patel

kmp

On Feb 6, 2012, at 2:31 PM, Shelly Green wrote:

> I’ve also spoken with Harmut and don’t believe what he has is necessarily meant to replace list serves (although who knows, at some point way down the road, it may.)  The Neighborship product, based on my getting in it and looking around, is really more of a website where neighbors can interact in a lot of ways. 
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> Also, I don’t believe he is stating that all of those neighborhoods listed have “endorsed” the product…merely that those are the ones that he has “set up” in the system.  Just my two cents.    
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> From: inc-list-bounces at rtpnet.org [mailto:inc-list-bounces at rtpnet.org] On Behalf OfTheOcean1 at aol.com
> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 1:11 PM
> To: Reyn Bowman; inc-list at durhaminc.org
> Subject: Re: [Durham INC] Neighborship
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> Having met with, and chatted with, Hartmut numerous times, it is my belief that introducing a new system will seriously disrupt the listserv system that we've accidentally put in place over the years.
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> In fact, that "quilting" term he mentioned probably came from our discussions. I didn't copyright the word, and he's welcome to use it, but when I used it I was describing the neighborhood listservs as pieces of the quilt, and they are sewn together when we cross post messages from one neighborhood to the next. Ditto cross posting from one Partners Against Crime district to the next.
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> Had we used Hartmut's system from the start, all would probably be well, although the possibility that it wouldn't remain free forever was a reasonable concern. But to switch over now could undermine the excellent communication we all presently enjoy (in my opinion).
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> Why fix something that isn't broken? It's disturbing that he's using some neighborhood's name in marketing when he's been asked to stop.
> 
> Bill Anderson
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>  
> In a message dated 2/6/2012 10:30:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, reynbowman at gmail.com writes:
> While neighborhood associations may choose for whatever reason not to move to a more flexible platform, they may wish to offer it to their residence who do.  We owe a great deal to those individuals who introduced us to listserves and it seems from what I have seen that neighborship is just another progressive step in that tradition
> 
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Philip Azar RR <pazar at nc.rr.com> wrote:
> Trinity Park is not part of neighborship.
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> From: inc-list-bounces at rtpnet.org [mailto:inc-list-bounces at rtpnet.org] On Behalf OfPhillip Bost
> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 5:26 PM
> To: Joshua Allen
> Cc: inc-list at durhaminc.org
> Subject: Re: [Durham INC] Neighborship
>  
> Will just state briefly that I oppose the use of this software in communities that already have mailing lists in place, but fully support it for neighborhoods that don't already have a mailing list set up.
> The risk is that some in an established online community will opt in, while others will not, thereby fracturing the community.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Phil Bost
> Duke Park
> DurhamHoods.com Creator 
> 
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Joshua Allen <allen.joshua at gmail.com> wrote:
> Watts Hillandale is not part of neighborship. The board elected not to use it. I have asked Hartmut not to promote his site listing our neighborhood. 
> 
> --Joshua 
> -----
> Sent from iPhone.  Please excuse brevity, typos, etc.
> 
> On Feb 3, 2012, at 10:22 AM, John Martin <bulldurhamnc at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Note:  Mr. Harmut Jahn has asked me to send the following message to the INC listserv.  He is currently on the agenda for the March meeting to briefly explain his product.  Neither I, nor the INC, has endorsed his program.  This is  Mr. Jahn's description, and I'm simply conveying it for your information.
>  
> --John Martin, INC President.
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>  
> Neighborship is inviting all citizens in Durham to participate in a new way to connect with their neighbors, neighboring communities, and
> Durham. It is private, safe and fun to use!
> 
> Currently available communities are:
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> Brightleaf
> Downtown Durham
> Forest Hills
> Hope Valley
> Lattamoor
> Northgate-Park
> Rockwood
> Station Nine
> Trinity-Heights
> Trinity Park
> Watts-Hillandale
> West-Village
> Woodcroft
> 
> Neighborship represents a new approach to online communities. It is linking or "quilting" them together with their municipalities and is providing them
> with their own panels to administer members, groups, content, and access rights. One important goal was to free neighbors of irrelevant emails and to let them focus on what matters most to them. By creating a structure to join organized conversations we eliminate time-consuming redundancies while providing community oversight.
> 
> Neighborship is providing boards and neighbors with many useful and unique features, such as
> 
> ·         a parent network for each city
> ·         an easy way to set up neighborhood websites
> ·         a neighborhood events calendar
> ·         a neighborhood bartering network
> ·         a review system
> ·         daily email notices
> ·         dues collections
> ·         an alert system
> ·         an access to PAC messages
> ·         and more
> Join at www.neighborship.com and start communicating more efficiently in Durham.
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