[Durham INC] [rna] Re: Neighborship

Mon Feb 6 15:41:06 EST 2012

My feeling is that it definitely aint broke so we do not need to fix anything about our current List serve. I think that if neighbors want to know my hobbies or where I like to eat they can drop by and we will talk about it.

2713 Stuart Drive

Cheers!

Dr. Richard T. Richardson
Associate Professor
Department of Cell and Developmental Biology
Room 206, Taylor Hall, CB# 7090
University of North Carolina
Chapel Hill, NC 27599
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From: rockwoodneighborhood at yahoogroups.com [rockwoodneighborhood at yahoogroups.com] on behalf of Ketan Mayer-Patel [kmp at cs.unc.edu]
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 3:35 PM
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Subject: [rna] Re: [Durham INC] Neighborship

Hi all,

I have never posted on Durham INC before, but I've followed it for quite some time. I'm the current mailing list manager for Rockwood. We happen to use Yahoo! Groups. I agree with Shelly that I don't think that Neighborship is claiming any sort of endorsement by any particular homeowner's or neighborhood association. Furthermore, I would ask those who have asked him to stop using the neighborhood names to perhaps reconsider their request. I know that Rockwood, for example, has no "official" association. We tried once, a while back, but it kind of fell apart. What was left, however, was the unmoderated mailing list that I've managed over the years, moving it to Yahoo groups when we had to move off of the UNC listserv. And as it turns out, that's worked well for us over the years. Harmut also approached me about moving the Rockwood list to Neighborship. The timing for us was bad, because I had just moved us to Yahoo groups not too long back and it took a decent amount of effort to get everyone to move and this was just replacing one emailing list to another. I also share many of the concerns expressed here about moving to something more complicated and a more overtly commercial model. But at the same time, Harmut should be free to promote his platform which does in fact have many additional and innovative features. I can not claim to own the name "Rockwood" and I don't think it is fair to prevent his use of the name to identify the neighborhood within his product either. Of course, this is my own personal opinion and I don't mean to appear as a representative of the Rockwood list as a whole.

Ketan Mayer-Patel

kmp

On Feb 6, 2012, at 2:31 PM, Shelly Green wrote:

I’ve also spoken with Harmut and don’t believe what he has is necessarily meant to replace list serves (although who knows, at some point way down the road, it may.)  The Neighborship product, based on my getting in it and looking around, is really more of a website where neighbors can interact in a lot of ways.

Also, I don’t believe he is stating that all of those neighborhoods listed have “endorsed” the product…merely that those are the ones that he has “set up” in the system.  Just my two cents.

From: inc-list-bounces at rtpnet.org<mailto:inc-list-bounces at rtpnet.org> [mailto:inc-list-bounces at rtpnet.org] On Behalf OfTheOcean1 at aol.com<mailto:TheOcean1 at aol.com>
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To: Reyn Bowman; inc-list at durhaminc.org<mailto:inc-list at durhaminc.org>
Subject: Re: [Durham INC] Neighborship

Having met with, and chatted with, Hartmut numerous times, it is my belief that introducing a new system will seriously disrupt the listserv system that we've accidentally put in place over the years.

In fact, that "quilting" term he mentioned probably came from our discussions. I didn't copyright the word, and he's welcome to use it, but when I used it I was describing the neighborhood listservs as pieces of the quilt, and they are sewn together when we cross post messages from one neighborhood to the next. Ditto cross posting from one Partners Against Crime district to the next.

Had we used Hartmut's system from the start, all would probably be well, although the possibility that it wouldn't remain free forever was a reasonable concern. But to switch over now could undermine the excellent communication we all presently enjoy (in my opinion).

Why fix something that isn't broken? It's disturbing that he's using some neighborhood's name in marketing when he's been asked to stop.

Bill Anderson

In a message dated 2/6/2012 10:30:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, reynbowman at gmail.com<mailto:reynbowman at gmail.com> writes:
While neighborhood associations may choose for whatever reason not to move to a more flexible platform, they may wish to offer it to their residence who do.  We owe a great deal to those individuals who introduced us to listserves and it seems from what I have seen that neighborship is just another progressive step in that tradition
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Philip Azar RR <pazar at nc.rr.com<mailto:pazar at nc.rr.com>> wrote:
Trinity Park is not part of neighborship.

From: inc-list-bounces at rtpnet.org<mailto:inc-list-bounces at rtpnet.org> [mailto:inc-list-bounces at rtpnet.org<mailto:inc-list-bounces at rtpnet.org>] On Behalf OfPhillip Bost
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 5:26 PM
To: Joshua Allen
Cc: inc-list at durhaminc.org<mailto:inc-list at durhaminc.org>
Subject: Re: [Durham INC] Neighborship

Will just state briefly that I oppose the use of this software in communities that already have mailing lists in place, but fully support it for neighborhoods that don't already have a mailing list set up.
The risk is that some in an established online community will opt in, while others will not, thereby fracturing the community.

Cheers,

Phil Bost
Duke Park
DurhamHoods.com<http://DurhamHoods.com> Creator
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Joshua Allen <allen.joshua at gmail.com<mailto:allen.joshua at gmail.com>> wrote:
Watts Hillandale is not part of neighborship. The board elected not to use it. I have asked Hartmut not to promote his site listing our neighborhood.

--Joshua
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Sent from iPhone.  Please excuse brevity, typos, etc.

On Feb 3, 2012, at 10:22 AM, John Martin <bulldurhamnc at yahoo.com<mailto:bulldurhamnc at yahoo.com>> wrote:
Note:  Mr. Harmut Jahn has asked me to send the following message to the INC listserv.  He is currently on the agenda for the March meeting to briefly explain his product.  Neither I, nor the INC, has endorsed his program.  This is  Mr. Jahn's description, and I'm simply conveying it for your information.

--John Martin, INC President.

Neighborship<http://www.neighborship.com/> is inviting all citizens in Durham to participate in a new way to connect with their neighbors, neighboring communities, and
Durham. It is private, safe and fun to use!

Currently available communities are:

Brightleaf
Downtown Durham
Forest Hills
Hope Valley
Lattamoor
Northgate-Park
Rockwood
Station Nine
Trinity-Heights
Trinity Park
Watts-Hillandale
West-Village
Woodcroft

Neighborship represents a new approach to online communities. It is linking or "quilting" them together with their municipalities and is providing them
with their own panels to administer members, groups, content, and access rights. One important goal was to free neighbors of irrelevant emails and to let them focus on what matters most to them. By creating a structure to join organized conversations we eliminate time-consuming redundancies while providing community oversight.

Neighborship is providing boards and neighbors with many useful and unique features, such as
•         a parent network for each city
•         an easy way to set up neighborhood websites
•         a neighborhood events calendar
•         a neighborhood bartering network
•         a review system
•         daily email notices
•         dues collections
•         an alert system
•         an access to PAC messages
•         and more
Join at www.neighborship.com<http://www.neighborship.com/> and start communicating more efficiently in Durham.

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