[Durham INC] INC-list Digest, Vol 107, Issue 15
Deborah Christie
dchristie1 at nc.rr.com
Fri Nov 15 13:02:42 EST 2013
Hi Ken,
With respect, the NC Republican Administration's claim that it is making
homes "more affordable" by limiting local building code inspections
departments in their inspections is specious. The intent seems to be to
allow homebuilders to build more cheaply and claim that local building
inspectors are exceeding the legal mandate to inspect homes - and making
homeowners pay for major repairs later.
Goodness knows that NC County Building Inspectors are stretched thin as it
is. Our personal experience in building a new home in Orange County in
2004-2005, showed George and me that the Orange County Building Inspections
Department was not able to protect us from a major Building Code violation
which resulted in structural damage and our having to repair and re-clad our
6-year old home at a cost of over $100K in 2011.
County Building Inspectors need to be given support and wide latitude in
enforcing the Building Codes, not limitations, in order to do more to
protect homeowners.
Best,
Deb
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Behalf Of Ken Gasch
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 6:14 AM
To: inc-list at rtpnet.org
Subject: Re: [Durham INC] INC-list Digest, Vol 107, Issue 15
Re: [Durham INC] State Law on New Home Inspections:
Hello Deb,
I followed the link provided. Article says changes in law to prevent "local
building code departments from requiring any inspections not authorized
under the state building code.' This does not strike me as particularly
dangerous for consumers. Building code is rather extensive. Before
commenting further, I would want additional information. What sort of
things, outside of what is authorize already by building code, do some
municipalities try to inspect now?
Respectfully,
Ken Gasch
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North Carolina General Contractor, TurnLight Partners, Ltd.
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Today's Topics:
1. Weekly Calendar for November 18, 2013 - November 22, 2013 &
Board Vacancy List (Bullock,Sheila)
2. Re: State Law on New Home Inspections (Deborah Christie)
3. Re: State Law on New Home Inspections (Clark, Sally)
4. Re: State Law on New Home Inspections (Dorothy Potter Snyder)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 19:54:32 +0000
From: "Bullock,Sheila" <Sheila.Bullock at durhamnc.gov>
To: "Bullock,Sheila" <Sheila.Bullock at durhamnc.gov>
Subject: [Durham INC] Weekly Calendar for November 18, 2013 - November
22, 2013 & Board Vacancy List
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Good Afternoon:
Below is the Weekly Calendar for November 18, 2013-November 22, 2013.
Currently, there are no updates to the Board Vacancy List.
[cid:image003.jpg at 01CEE149.6BA71FA0]CITY OF DURHAM
Office of the City Clerk
101 CITY HALL PLAZA | DURHAM, NC 27701
919.560-4166 | F. 919.560.4835
www.durhamnc.gov<http://www.durhamnc.gov>
WEEKLY CALENDAR
NOVEMBER 18, 2013 - NOVEMBER 22, 2013
Durham City Council meets regularly on the first and third Monday of the
month in the Council Chambers on the first floor of City Hall at 7:00 p.m.
The meetings are open to the public and aired live on cable channel 8.
City Government meetings scheduled during the next week include the
following:
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 18, 2013
5:30 p.m. Citizens Advisory Committee
(Department of Community Development/807 E. Main Street/Golden Belt
Complex/Building #2/Conference Room)
7:00 p.m. City Council Meeting
(Council Chambers/1st Floor/City Hall)
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 19, 2013
3:30 p.m. Durham 9-1-1 Emergency Communications Advisory Board
(Durham County Emergency Management/2422 Broad
Street)
7:00 p.m. Durham Bicycle & Pedestrian Advisory Commission
(Committee Room/2nd Floor/City Hall)
WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 20, 2013
9:00 a.m. Technical Coordinating Committee
(Committee Room/2nd Floor/City Hall)
9:30 a.m. Upper Neuse River Basin Association
(Butner Town Hall/415 Central Avenue, Suite A/Butner, N.C.)
1:00 p.m. Triangle Transit Board of Trustees
(TTA Administrative Office/4600 Emperor
Boulevard/Suite 100)
3:00 p.m. Durham Homeless Services Advisory Committee
(Council Chambers/1st Floor/City Hall)
3:15 p.m. Durham Cultural Advisory Board
(Durham Convention & Visitors Bureau/101 E. Morgan
Street)
5:30 p.m. Housing Appeals Board
(Department of Neighborhood Improvement Services/Golden Belt Complex/807 E.
Main Street/3rd Floor Conference Room)
5:30 p.m. Durham City-County Appearance Commission
(Conference Room GA/Ground Floor/City Hall)
5:30 p.m. Housing Authority of the City of Durham Board of
Commissioners
(Durham Housing Authority/330 E. Main Street)
...................................................IMMEDIATELY
FOLLOWING.................................
Board of Directors, Development Ventures,
Incorporated (DVI)
(Durham Housing Authority/330 E. Main Street)
5:30 p.m. Open Space Committee of the Durham Open Space & Trails
Commission
(Conference Room GB/Ground Floor/City Hall)
6:00 p.m. Education & Development Review Committees of the Durham
Open Space & Trails Commission
(Committee Room/2nd Floor/City Hall)
7:00 p.m. Durham Open Space & Trails Commission
(Committee Room/2nd Floor/City Hall)
7:00 p.m. Passenger Vehicle for Hire Commission
(DATA Administration Facility/1907 Fay Street)
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 21, 2013
8:00 a.m. Landlord Training Workshop
(Neighborhood Improvement Services Department/807 E. Main Street/Golden Belt
Building/Suite 2-300)
8:30 a.m. Durham Workforce Development Board
(Holton Career & Resource Center/401 N. Driver
Street)
1:00 p.m. City Council Work Session
(Committee Room/2nd Floor/City Hall)
1:00 p.m. Raleigh-Durham Airport Authority
(RDU Center/Conference Room 100/1000 Trade Drive/RDU
Airport)
5:00 p.m. Northeast Central Durham Subcommittee
(Committee Room/2nd Floor/City Hall)
7:00 p.m. Sister Cities of Durham, Inc.
(First Presbyterian Church/305 E. Main Street)
FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 22, 2013
No Meetings Scheduled
All meetings are held in City Hall, 101 City Hall Plaza, unless otherwise
indicated. Additional meetings may be scheduled after this list is
submitted for publication. Free parking is available during the Council
Meeting in the Chapel Hill Street Parking Garage, located across Mangum
Street from City Hall. Any citizen wishing to be heard on agenda matters
should call the City Clerk's Office at 560-4166 to place your name on the
Speaker's List.
To learn more about current City of Durham issues and upcoming events watch
CityLife on Time Warner Cable channel 8. CityLife airs Mondays at 6:30 p.m.
and Tuesdays at 9 p.m. Citizen input and questions are invited.
Notice Under the Americans with Disabilities Act
A person with a disability may receive an auxiliary aid or service to
effectively participate in city government activities by contacting the ADA
Coordinator, voice 919-560-4197, fax 560-4196, TTY 919-560-1200, or
ADA at durhamnc.gov<mailto:ADA at durhamnc.gov> as soon as possible but not later
than 48 hours before the event or deadline date.
Sheila Bullock, Sr. Executive Assistant
City of Durham
Office of the City Clerk
101 City Hall Plaza
Durham, NC 27701
(919) 560-4166 <tel:%28919%29%20560-4166> Office
(919) 560-4835 <tel:%28919%29%20560-4835> Fax
sheila.bullock at durhamnc.gov<mailto:sheila.bullock at durhamnc.gov>
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 18:13:21 -0500
From: "Deborah Christie" <dchristie1 at nc.rr.com>
To: "'Pat Carstensen'" <pats1717 at hotmail.com>, "'inc listserv'"
<inc-list at durhaminc.org>
Subject: Re: [Durham INC] State Law on New Home Inspections
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This is yet another regressive action on the part of the legislature and
Governor McCrory to reduce protection for homeowners.
Homeowners in North Carolina are already at risk by virtue of a draconian
statute of repose in North Carolina which limits legal action - even on
major structural deficiencies - to 6 years from the date of the certificate
of occupancy, regardless of when they are discovered.
The real beneficiaries of less protection for homeowners are the insurance
companies who insure homebuilders.
North Carolina homeowners deserve better.
Deb Christie
From: inc-list-bounces at rtpnet.org [mailto:inc-list-bounces at rtpnet.org] On
Behalf Of Pat Carstensen
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 9:04 PM
To: inc listserv
Subject: [Durham INC] State Law on New Home Inspections
I don't know that this will be affecting Durham, but there is new state law
about how carefully we can check new construction. Or taking the other
side, how much wasteful regulation will be allowed (-:
http://www.thepilot.com/news/moore-county-homebuilders-inspectors-seek-clari
<http://www.thepilot.com/news/moore-county-homebuilders-inspectors-seek-clar
ification-on-new-law/article_91849c34-4c01-11e3-a664-001a4bcf6878.html>
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 23:31:08 +0000
From: "Clark, Sally" <Sally.Clark at bhhsysu.com>
To: Deborah Christie <dchristie1 at nc.rr.com>, 'Pat Carstensen'
<pats1717 at hotmail.com>, 'inc listserv' <inc-list at durhaminc.org>
Subject: Re: [Durham INC] State Law on New Home Inspections
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I find the change in the law on New Home inspections to be a terrible thing.
I've been a licensed real estate agent for 27 years, and the length of the
"punch" list during that timehas decreased from pages and pages to just a
few items. There is a huge incentive to get things right the first time,
which is so much better for consumers. Of course we will continue to have
private inspections done as well, and I just see this new law as making the
home buying process a more frustrating and difficult experience for all
concerned.
Sally Clark
Broker, GRI
O: 919-313-3469
M: 919-270-7558
EFax: 919-282-1398
[eMail Signature]
From: inc-list-bounces at rtpnet.org [mailto:inc-list-bounces at rtpnet.org] On
Behalf Of Deborah Christie
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:13 PM
To: 'Pat Carstensen'; 'inc listserv'
Subject: Re: [Durham INC] State Law on New Home Inspections
This is yet another regressive action on the part of the legislature and
Governor McCrory to reduce protection for homeowners.
Homeowners in North Carolina are already at risk by virtue of a draconian
statute of repose in North Carolina which limits legal action - even on
major structural deficiencies - to 6 years from the date of the certificate
of occupancy, regardless of when they are discovered.
The real beneficiaries of less protection for homeowners are the insurance
companies who insure homebuilders.
North Carolina homeowners deserve better.
Deb Christie
From: inc-list-bounces at rtpnet.org<mailto:inc-list-bounces at rtpnet.org>
[mailto:inc-list-bounces at rtpnet.org] On Behalf Of Pat Carstensen
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 9:04 PM
To: inc listserv
Subject: [Durham INC] State Law on New Home Inspections
I don't know that this will be affecting Durham, but there is new state law
about how carefully we can check new construction. Or taking the other
side, how much wasteful regulation will be allowed (-:
http://www.thepilot.com/news/moore-county-homebuilders-inspectors-seek-clari
fication-on-new-law/article_91849c34-4c01-11e3-a664-001a4bcf6878.html
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 20:47:18 -0500
From: Dorothy Potter Snyder <letsspeakspanish at gmail.com>
To: "Clark, Sally" <Sally.Clark at bhhsysu.com>
Cc: inc listserv <inc-list at durhaminc.org>
Subject: Re: [Durham INC] State Law on New Home Inspections
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I agree with you, Sally. It is an absolutely bald-faced strategy to make
life easier for business at the expense of consumer safety and protection.
How much "wasteful" regulation will be allowed? Well, what is wasteful
quite frankly is in the eye of the person whose time or money is spent. It
is absolutely clear that the Governor is not on the side of the public
interest and has rapidly gone about making NC business friendly at the
expense of the People.
Sure wish there was better investigative reporting going on in our state.
It's almost impossible for me to believe that there are not favors and
money changing hands when things like this happen.
D P S
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Clark, Sally
<Sally.Clark at bhhsysu.com>wrote:
> I find the change in the law on New Home inspections to be a terrible
> thing. I?ve been a licensed real estate agent for 27 years, and the
length
> of the ?punch? list during that timehas decreased from pages and pages to
> just a few items. There is a huge incentive to get things right the first
> time, which is so much better for consumers. Of course we will continue
to
> have private inspections done as well, and I just see this new law as
> making the home buying process a more frustrating and difficult experience
> for all concerned.
>
>
>
> *Sally Clark*
>
> Broker, GRI
>
> O: 919-313-3469
>
> M: 919-270-7558
>
> EFax: 919-282-1398
>
>
>
> [image: eMail Signature]
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* inc-list-bounces at rtpnet.org [mailto:inc-list-bounces at rtpnet.org]
*On
> Behalf Of *Deborah Christie
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:13 PM
> *To:* 'Pat Carstensen'; 'inc listserv'
> *Subject:* Re: [Durham INC] State Law on New Home Inspections
>
>
>
> This is yet another regressive action on the part of the legislature and
> Governor McCrory to reduce protection for homeowners.
>
>
>
> Homeowners in North Carolina are already at risk by virtue of a draconian
> statute of repose in North Carolina which limits legal action ? even on
> major structural deficiencies - to 6 years from the date of the
> certificate of occupancy, regardless of when they are discovered.
>
>
>
> The real beneficiaries of less protection for homeowners are the insurance
> companies who insure homebuilders.
>
>
>
> North Carolina homeowners deserve better.
>
>
>
> Deb Christie
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* inc-list-bounces at rtpnet.org
[mailto:inc-list-bounces at rtpnet.org<inc-list-bounces at rtpnet.org>]
> *On Behalf Of *Pat Carstensen
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 13, 2013 9:04 PM
> *To:* inc listserv
> *Subject:* [Durham INC] State Law on New Home Inspections
>
>
>
> I don't know that this will be affecting Durham, but there is new state
> law about how carefully we can check new construction. Or taking the
other
> side, how much wasteful regulation will be allowed (-:
>
>
>
>
>
http://www.thepilot.com/news/moore-county-homebuilders-inspectors-seek-clari
fication-on-new-law/article_91849c34-4c01-11e3-a664-001a4bcf6878.html
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.durham-inc.org/list.html
>
>
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*Dorothy Potter Snyder*
*The Art of Language*
*305 Monticello Avenue*
*Durham NC 27707*
*919-237-2931*
www.dorothypotterspanish.com
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