[Durham INC] [OWDNA] Re: Fwd: FW: Share your thoughts on the Durham-Orange Light Rail (D-OLRT) project!!!

[Joshua Allen]

Fair enough. Not all light rail is the same. You are right about needing to be designed right. That's why I like subways ; they don't intersect roads.  The plans I've seen for our system are nearly all at the same level as the road. If we are going to spend a billion plus dollars let's do it right instead of making things worse. 

--Joshua 
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> On Oct 10, 2014, at 7:45 AM, Vicky <vickyw1961 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Portland Oregon has a great system and it is light rail. I agree there are many ways to build it. Some portions of there's are underground but much of it is above ground also. I think it is too broad of a statement to say "all" light rail is bad. It just depends on the plan. 
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>> On Oct 10, 2014, at 7:08 AM, Angel Romero angel at worldmusiccentral.org [owdna] <owdna-noreply at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>> Light rail works if it's designed the right away. Most developed countries do not have railroad intersections at the same level. Either bridges or tunnels (or trenches) are made to prevent the problem you are referring to. In fact, many countries build tunnels for trains in urban areas and the reclaimed surface area becomes extremely valuable real estate. If the light rail in our area is built with crossings at the same level, I agree with you that it's a a bad idea because it will indeed generate traffic backups and eventually some accident.
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>> Angel Romero
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>>> On 10/9/2014 9:28 PM, Joshua Allen wrote:
>>> I think everyone is getting caught up in the hoopla of a train. I think trains are really cool too....  When they are underground or for longer distances.  Light rail is terrible.  I've seen it first hand in Houston and it backs up traffic tremendously.  They cause lights to turn and stay red much more often. You can wait several cycles of red lights before getting through an intersection if you are a driver.  
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>>> And you can give the middle finger to cars all you want, but I'm sure most of us drive cars everyday and will continue to drive them even if we get light rail.  Subway is awesome. Light rail is awful.  If you disagree, at least go somewhere that has it, try to drive near it, and see how great you think it is then.  Erwin Road already sucks and it will suck way way worse if we put light rail down the middle. This is all wishful utopian thinking but a really bad idea in practice. 
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>>> --Joshua 
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>>> On Oct 9, 2014, at 8:43 PM, Don Moffitt <don.moffitt at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> From: Smart, Lindsay
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 3:08 PM
>>>> To: Smart, Lindsay
>>>> Subject: Share your thoughts on the Durham-Orange Light Rail (D-OLRT) project!!!
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>>>> Want to learn more about the Durham-Orange Light Rail Transit (D-OLRT)Project? Drop in to one of four public meetings coming up November 18-20. Meeting locations and times can be found at ourtransitfuture.com or facebook.com/ourtransitfuture.
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>>>> Share your opinions with us. Please take our survey at: ourtransitfuture.com or gotriangle.org, before November 7th so that your comments can be included in our public outreach report during the November meetings.
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>>>> If you would like to schedule a meeting for project staff to provide more D-OLRT information to your neighborhood, contact Natalie Murdock at (919) 485-7569 or email her at nmurdock at triangletransit.org<mailto:nmurdock at triangletransit.org>.
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