INC NEWS - >>> ADMIN SAYS READ <<<

Fri Apr 7 07:24:59 EDT 2006

randy,

most listservs that i belong to are set up to automatically reject any 
posting from a non-subscriber, bounce the message back to the 
originator, and append a pre-written explanation with instructions on 
how to join the list.  Why would you want to do this manually? Seems 
like an awful lot of work?

and you're right about the spam.  If the list was open for 
non-subscribers to post, it would be quickly inundated.

barry ragin

RW Pickle wrote:

>It already causes me extra work. And just adding them to the list often
>makes people mad because they start getting more mail they do not want.
>Then, most of the time, they are too lazy to remove themselves and then
>send me an email to have me remove them. Yet more effort that I have to
>expend.
>
>Rejecting the post is a one click thing on my end. For one post or 50
>posts that are just hung up at the server. I'm going to keep rejecting
>them until told differently. It's easier on me just to do it that way.
>List servers should be effortless. Every now and then when you have stuff
>like cross-posting or spam attacks, it just adds to my workload. Something
>none of needs I'm sure.
>
>Personally, I'd like to add them to the list because I think the more
>people who get info, the more informed we all are. But I'll not resort to
>adding people just to get there. Plus, if I added everyone, we'd soon
>start seeing alot of spam making its way to the list server. Currently,
>with the present policy, that is not happening to the list and I have
>spared us all some more spam.
>
>It's the cross-posting of late that has caused the problem. And perhaps it
>is done without thought. But because we all aren't on the same lists, it
>creates problems. Not just for me as the INC administrator, but for all of
>the other list administrators as well (unless the Yahoo lists
>automatically return posts by people not on a list). I can set ours up to
>do the same thing, but everynow and then there is a thread with a relevant
>post from someone not on our list (I recall sending a post by our last
>Mayor through recently as he commented on a thread that was cross-posted).
>But it gets old on my end babysitting. I think an educational moment every
>now and then tends to make people aware of things they may have forgotten
>or never knew (or maybe never thought of).
>
>RWP
>27 Beverly
>
>RW
>
>
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>>Randy -
>>
>>Rather than reject the cross-post, why not just accept it and invite the
>>cross-poster to join the INC list as well?  Or advise them that by
>>cross-posting, they are automatically subscribed to the INC list until
>>they
>>unsubscribe?
>>
>>Just a thought -
>>
>>Deb Christie
>>Colony Hill neighborhood
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "RW Pickle" <randy at 27beverly.com>
>>To: <inc-list at durhaminc.org>
>>Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 3:59 PM
>>Subject: INC NEWS - >>> ADMIN SAYS READ <<<
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>>>I am seeing an increasing amout of a problem that is simple for list
>>>posters to deal with. So I thought I'd take this educational moment to
>>>mention it.
>>>
>>>The problem is cross-posting. That is when you send an email out to
>>>multiple lists or list servers. It's not a problem for the poster (if
>>>they
>>>belong to all of the lists), but because people who will respond to the
>>>post may not belong to all of the lists the poster belongs, it begins to
>>>drag them across lists when they click the "reply all" link in their
>>>email.
>>>
>>>I have adopted the policy to reject these cross-posted replies only
>>>because if the people wanted to be a part of the INC list, they could
>>>easily join. Perhaps by rejecting the posts, they will. But it causes me
>>>extra effort in dealing with all of the non-list members cross-posting.
>>>I
>>>do not wish to add them to the INC list because it is an opt-in list and
>>>that would circumvent that option. So I reject the posts and include a
>>>message that it was rejected because they are not a member of the INC
>>>opt-in mailing list.
>>>
>>>So as you send posts out across the great email divide, please be aware
>>>that a number of people who might read your post on one list, may not be
>>>a
>>>member of another list. And because they will click the "reply all"
>>>email
>>>link, their reply will be sent to all the lists that they are not
>>>members
>>>of. By single list posting, this problem will disappear. You might
>>>encourage other members of your community join the INC list so their
>>>posts
>>>will not be rejected in the future.
>>>
>>>Sorry if this is a problem for some. But I can assure you it's a bigger
>>>problem on this end for me.
>>>
>>>List Administrator
>>>
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>>>INC-list at rtpnet.org
>>>http://lists.deltaforce.net/mailman/listinfo/inc-list
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>>>
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