INC NEWS - [pac2] RE: [TrinityPark] RE: agenda and proposed resolutions f...

Sun Apr 23 09:59:35 EDT 2006

Bill, permit me to be really silly here.

**** BEGIN SILLINESS ****

Did you know that exposure to the sun can cause skin cancer?  Most children
rack up between 50% and 80% of their lifetime sun exposure before age 18.
Perhaps, we should pass an ordinance that bars all sun bathing on the
beaches.  It would certainly be much safer of us all if we adopted such an
ordinance, not to mention, significant savings in health care costs.  Too
bad Durham doesn't have any beaches.  But hey, let's do it anyway.

**** END OF SILLINESS ****

Now seriously, my point is that panhandling is a problem in Durham.  By all
indications the ordinance will do nothing to solve the problem or even get
us on our way.  It is simply an expensive distraction that makes some of us
feel like we've addressed the problem when in fact we've simply ignored the
real issues.

Since we have ventured into silliness, I know I have spoken way too much on
this issue.  So for my own sanity and what's left of the sanity of the list
members I'll bow out of this discussion.  Besides, it's Sunday and I have to
go to church.

Newman

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Subject: Re: [pac2] RE: INC NEWS - [TrinityPark] RE: agenda and proposed
resolutions f...

Newman

 Just to be fair...

I did say something that could equate to:

 "by your own admission will have little impact"

But you should include the context:

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"It probably won't have a huge effect, but it still MUST be done"
And here's why: 

*First and foremost, this is only the county for the moment, while the mass
majority of the problem is in the city.

{But this is the first step in getting the city to follow suit}

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Digging four holes in your back yard won't add much to your property value.
But if you fill them with concrete and build a deck above them, it sure
will. The above comment was made in the same vain. You must dig those holes
to build the deck.

We have to start somewhere, let's pass this and start educating ourselves
that our charity dollar is better utilized by Triangle United Way, where
it's use can be monitored.

IMHO

Bill Anderson

In a message dated 4/22/2006 10:57:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
newman at nc.rr.com writes:

Bill,

"Is that really you? I've never heard you sound so defeatist."

Why do my comments sound defeatist to you?  To me, I just don't see this as
an important enough reason to waste costly enforcement resources, compared
to more serious crime.  We've worked extremely hard as a community in the
past few years to increases the resources for the police department and we
are working very hard to ensure that our courts help us with the serious
crimes.  Do you really think this is so important that we need to over
burden an already seriously over burdened system with this wasteful endeavor
that is destined to fail and by your own admission will have little impact?
It's a matter of priorities to me.  It also trivializes the real problems in
our city with poverty, substance abuse and mental health.  Frankly, as a
human being, I find that very offensive.

As I have stated before, we can solve this problem as some other cities have
done successfully.  We can stop the flow of money if we choose to do this
and we can replicate their efforts in working to address the problem.

Don't forget that panhandling by the roadways is not a crime.  It is by this
ordinance that we would make it a crime.

Newman

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