[Durham INC] [pac2] Developments regarding Electronic billboards in Durham

TheOcean1 at aol.com TheOcean1 at aol.com
Fri Jan 16 14:43:46 EST 2009


 
 
Sure hope I don't add to the confusion, but it's my understanding there is  
no current proposal on the table.
 
As I understand it, Fairway approached elected officials with a proposed  
text amendment. Elected officials suggested they get community input, which  
we've been supplying, no prying required. 
During that input gathering, I believe Fairway pulled it's request to amend  
the text of the UDO, and that's where we stand currently.
 
Since there is no language yet, there is nothing presently to voice an  exact 
opinion about.
 
I hold some general opinions that relate to this topic.
First, that we are a community that is capable of voicing our collective  
opinion, which I think Durham proves on a regular basis.
Secondly, that we are, or should be, a community that is able to  
intelligently evaluate all offers, be it Bio Labs, tethering dogs, or adding a  Prepared 
Meals Tax. To do that well, we have to place everything on the same  flat 
playing field. We are most able to do that when we don't confuse the issues  with 
misleading statements, such as calling the prepared meals tax a "food  tax".
 
Lastly, that we are blessed as a community to have sufficient forums where  
we can examine the issues before us. If those forums are like windows, then we  
all have a vested reason to keep the glass as clean as possible, so that our  
collective vision is as clear as possible.
 
It might sound like quibbling when you point to exact wording, such as  "food 
tax", but some terms serve only to incite riot, and dirty the window we  are 
all trying to see through.
 
Sometimes these terms are introduced with the intention of inflaming or  
obscuring, as I believe the term "food tax" was, other times they are accidental  
or just a slightly poor choice of words.
Fortunately, during the examination of this billboard issue, there hasn't  
been too much of this. Still, even if there's only a little bit of dirt on our  
window, we should all want to clean it off.
 
With such great respect for the folks who've been chiming in, I hesitate to  
point out even a small smudge they left on the glass. With that preface, I'll  
point to one, and you'll instantly see why it looks like quibbling about  
terminology.
 
Someone commenting about the distraction factor said something on the order  
of "flashing new messages every few seconds". To my way of thinking, if 
someone  said "couple" that would be two, if they say "half dozen" that would be 
six. The  word "few" {in my mind} means between three and five.
In truth, the messages change every eight seconds. That might indeed be a  
distraction, but I wouldn't call eight, a few.
Unless I was talking with a Police officer after consuming eight beers,  then 
I might want to say I'd had "a few", but it wouldn't be to give the  officer 
a clear picture of how much I've had to drink in that case.
 
I still haven't chimed in with my opinion yet, EXCEPT this idea. It won't  
invalidate the contention that a message changing every eight seconds might be  
distracting. Calling that "every few seconds" might not seem like a huge  
difference, but if you compound that too many times, you are no longer looking  at 
the real picture.
 
This is obviously an important and emotional issue, and because of that we  
all should give extra effort to keeping the window as clean as possible.
 
I do intend on sharing my opinion, after a little more information  gathering.
 
Bill Anderson
 
In a message dated 1/16/2009 1:04:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
mwshiflett at hotmail.com writes:

As far  as I've been able to understand from listening to both sides of this  
issue,  at no time have I heard or seen evidence that the billboard  industry 
is proposing to put up new ".........flashing billboards near our  homes, 
schools, churches, and parks."  From the previous INC meeting  and from what 
I've read in the newspapers, they only want to have them  along the current 
legal locations that they are now.  That being  US85, 15-501, 70 and 147.

I have not heard that they are looking at  upgrading any signs to digital 
anywhere near any of the above.

Can  someone can provide confirmation or evidence of this?

In the  meantime,  I'm still trying to understand exactly what it being  
proposed and presented in the text amendment.

Mike  Shiflett



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kelly Jarrett"  <kjj1 at duke.edu>
To: "owdNA" <owdna at yahoogroups.com>; "PAC2"  <pac2 at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:41  AM
Subject: [pac2] Developments regarding Electronic billboards in  Durham


For those who have been following the electronic billboard  issue, the 
following might be of interest:

Forwarded from INC  listserv:

folks,

Let us celebrate a victory for the  community...

In choosing to do nothing, the DDI board decided not to  support the 
billboard industry.

This decision represents a set-back  for those trying to stick big, bright, 
flashing billboards near our homes,  schools, churches, and parks. (Thanks go 
to those DDI board members who  spoke out against this terrible idea.)

The struggle continues to stop  the billboard industry from overturning the 
current ban on electronic  billboards in Durham.

But today we celebrate a victory for common  sense.

have a great weekend,
John


January 15,  2009

Mr. Paul Hickman
General Manager
Fairway Outdoor  Advertising
P. O. Box 10545
Raleigh, NC  27605

Dear  Paul,

Several weeks ago Steve Toler and you asked that the DDI Board of  Directors 
consider your request to the City of Durham related to revised  text 
amendment language related to the outdoor advertising industry in  Durham.

What follows is a summary of the DDI Board’s lengthy and  thoughtful 
discussion, and its decision.

As DDI understands, last  summer, Fairway Outdoor Advertising submitted an 
application, which is  still pending, for a text amendment revision to the 
UDO related to  Durham’s billboard ordinance.  After submitting its 
application,  Fairway representatives met with members of Planning 
Department, which  forwarded the application to the Joint City-County 
Planning Committee for  review. The JCCPC recommended to Fairway that it 
begin a process of  meeting with community organizations to discuss the 
billboard  proposal.  Following the JCCPC meeting, we understand that Fairway 
 
withdrew the draft language portion of its text amendment application;  and, 
in good faith, began scheduling meetings for its community outreach  effort. 
After completing its community outreach effort, Fairway may  re-submit 
revised draft text amendment language as part of its current  application.

So, technically, until Fairway re-submits formal draft  text amendment 
language for its application, currently there is no formal  text amendment 
“on the table.”

While there is no formal text  amendment language to consider at this time, 
DDI recognizes the  substantial community interest about this issue, and in 
keeping with DDI’s  long standing effort to lend its voice to the discussion 
of important  community issues, and responding to a request of Fairway, a DDI 
Partner in  Progress, the DDI Board of Directors held a lengthy and 
thoughtful  discussion at its meeting on January 15th.

After very careful  consideration of facts as understood by the members 
present, and of the  pros and cons of how this issue relates to our 
community, and in  particular downtown, members of the Board of Directors 
were unable to come  to a consensus on any recommendation, and therefore DDI 
voted to take no  action related to this issue.

In the interest of disclosure to Fairway  and the public, the Board asked 
that I elaborate on the reason for our  decision to take no action.

The Board’s discussion focused on three  main areas:  the repair and 
landscaping of billboards currently in  our community; the possible 
relocation of billboards within the community;  and, the issue of allowing 
digital billboards.

Board members did  wish to encourage the repair and landscaping of billboards 
currently in  our community.  Members were of the opinion that given the 
unsightly  nature of many Durham roadsides, and of some billboards, our 
community’s  appearance would benefit from the repair and landscaping of 
current  billboards.  However, repair or upgrade of billboards is difficult.  
As DDI understands, the current Durham billboard ordinance allows for  
routine maintenance and for repairs as long as those repairs do not exceed  
25% of the value of the billboard in any given year, or the repairs do not  
use substantially different materials. For example, if an outdoor  
advertising company attempted to replace a wood billboard frame with a  metal 
frame, it would be difficult to make the upgrade since wood is a  very 
different material than metal, and the cost would probably exceed 25%  of the 
value of the billboard.

In regard to the issue of relocation  of billboards, Board members were 
uncertain of any criteria that have been  recommended to insure that any 
relocated billboard would not harm the  visual appeal of any Durham 
neighborhood, including downtown.  For  example, without specific guidelines, 
Board members discussed whether or  not billboards could be erected in an 
area that might result in an  unsightly cluster effect, or might harm a 
neighborhood’s curb appeal, or,  in the case of downtown, might block 
downtown’s emerging skyline.  As  a result of this uncertainty, the Board 
recommends to the community that  if Fairway re-submits text amendment 
language, the issue of relocation  would benefit from a community discussion 
about appropriate criteria for  relocation; and, that serious thought should 
be given to the formation of  a commission of government, community and 
industry representatives which  would consider any relocation of billboards 
along Durham’s  main
corridors.

Very serious consideration was given to the issue of  allowing digital 
billboards in our community.  Members of the Board  could come to no 
consensus on whether or not digital billboards brought  value or harm to our 
community --- and it was clear that a consensus was  not going to be 
achieved.  If one assumes that digital billboards are  an effective message 
provider, some Board members saw value in digital  billboards as they relate 
to marketing downtown events, providing  opportunities for less expensive 
marketing for downtown businesses, and  providing amber alerts and other 
emergency messages that could benefit our  community.  On the other hand, 
other Board members were concerned  about the visual impact of digital 
billboards, especially since no one  could be certain where future digital 
billboards might be located (other  than on main corridors, and near 
commercial areas), and what impact they  might have on any neighborhood (some 
neighborhoods may be located
near  commercial areas) in Durham.  Since Board members were simply not  
knowledgeable about where digital billboards would be located, and  therefore 
would not know what impact they might have on any neighborhood,  Board 
members could not reach any consensus.

In the final analysis,  the DDI Board of Directors is composed of 45 
thoughtful business,  community and political leaders.  These 45 people will 
have different  opinions of what is good, or not good, for our community’s 
future  growth.  Sometimes, not often, reaching a consensus on a  
controversial community issue is simply not possible.  And, in those  
instances, we have an obligation to agree to disagree with each other, and  
vote to take the action to take no action.

If you have any  questions, or would like to discuss my Board’s decision 
further, please  feel free to give me a call.

Cordially yours,


William A.  Kalkhof
President

Cc:  Mr. Steve  Toler



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